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Topic: McCain ducks issue (Political)

On July 9th, a reporter asked Sen. John McCain whether he thinks it's fair for insurance companies to cover Viagra for men, but not birth control for women.  Here's what he said:

http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/mccain_respect_contraception/?r=922&id=574-1650682-k3TJkVx

**Is this an issue that women should be interested in?  Comments, please.

HERE is an article I read earlier about what Bush is trying to do before leaving office. I'll bet McCain will go along with it. I truly think they are trying to push women's rights back to the Dark Ages.

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Preventing fertilization is not akin to abortion. They have the same argument about the 'morning after' pill. Not believing in birth control is a personal choice; limiting it due to fake 'science' or religious ignorance is another. That's what makes me laugh about the former Hillary supporters stumping for McCain. Do these people really know his positions and are they so pissy that they'd support him simply to spite Obama? Good lord. eom Kelly Oh!!

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Posted by: Donna7888
Date posted: Fri Jul 18 13:58:35 2008
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Now this is wierd because my BC pill has been covered for many many years.  Back in the 80's I used to have to have my doctor write a note that I'm on it for medical reasons.  But I haven't had that done in a zillion years.  My co-pay however is the highest I've ever paid $30. because I won't switch to a generic pill.

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Posted by: Mitch
Date posted: Fri Jul 18 13:36:44 2008
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I'm actually starting to feel sorry for the guy.

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I don't feel sorry for him. He chose to enter the Presidential race despite his obvious lack of ability, so obviously the humiliation doesn't bother him much (if it registers at all). I suppose, though, he figured if Shrub could get elected any idiot could. ~i&b

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Posted by: serialmom
Date posted: Fri Jul 18 11:45:33 2008
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Gosh the way he's stammering and searching for words is reminescent of someone else.  Hmmmm now who could that be?     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGRYPYuFZLk

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Posted by: Midge
Date posted: Fri Jul 18 11:33:49 2008
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He should put as much thought into other things. Imagine his "100 years" in Iraq, "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomba, bomb Iran" and comments about "current talks" involving Czechoslovakia, which was disbanded in 1992 and no longer exists, did he have to condsider his answers? No, he had plenty to say. But a simple question like the fairness of insurance covering Viagra and not birth control, he can't answer without looking it up??? What's to look up? How much the insurance companies are paying him?

What a friggin idiot!!

BTW, yes I did sign the petition you e-mailed and have passed to along.

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Posted by: DebS
Date posted: Fri Jul 18 10:43:01 2008
Message:
And people wonder why he's called "McCrazy." What a hypocrite! Yeah, he scares me too much. He's nothing but a Bush II.

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The funny thing is that depending what channel you watch, McNuts and Obama are painted with different colors of competence. You tune in Fox and McCain is the second coming, better than Christ. So is Bush. Oh according to Fox, Bush does NOOOO wrong, and Obama is stupid and incompetent. You tune into CNN and Obama IS Christ! LOL AmyD

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Posted by: Brillo
Date posted: Fri Jul 18 10:31:25 2008
Message:
I don't think this is a minor issue at all. Population control is major. What a dufus this guy is. I wonder if Obama has made any statements about this?

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Brillo, I agree that population control is a BIG issue. However, we have more sophisticated means of birth control available than we have ever had in history and the population continues to grow. From that, I infer that most people are going to have as many children as they want no matter. Or that is the way it seems to me. ~Duffy

Population control is a HUGE issue! And to ingy's point below, so is abortion rights to many people in this country, including me!..........DebS

You're right Duffy, they will continue to have kids. But insurance should still cover BC if they are going to cover V. /Brillo

DebS, I am not up on all the ins and outs of abortion rights but just from what I've managed to glean I'm wondering if there is anyone who wants an abortion who can't get one? ~Duffy

Brillo, I am just going by various commercials and articles in the paper here, but isn't there a sort of female version of Viagra? I may be all wet but, if there is, I wonder if it is covered by insurance? ~Duffy

Duffy, give the republicans more time and there will be people out there who need abortions, but can't have one.............DebS

Especially if they're handing out Viagra like candy. Midge

DebS, I think that train has left the station. I doubt anything will be done about abortion laws (of course, that may be the kiss of death since I am often proven wrong!) After all, there IS a population problem so it seems like the more abortions, the fewer people, right? Even though abortion is something I would never have considered for myself, I do believe others should be allowed to make that choice. ~Duffy

Actually, Midge, rather than *handing them out like candy*, I understand that Viagra is about $5.00 or more per pill. ~Duffy

I honestly don't agree that that train has left the station, although I do hope you're right. I think conservative republicans will continue to try to make abortion illegal, until they actually succeed...........DebS

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Posted by: Duffy
Date posted: Fri Jul 18 9:54:25 2008
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In the midst of so many other things that are *not fair*, no, I think this is minor.  There are more important things we need to hear from McCain on.

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Well, BC does tie into the abortion issue which is of major importance to some people. ~i&b

Its just one more example of discrimnation against women especially in health care where most of the studies are done on men and then they assume the findings will be the same for women. I have seen countless women die from heart attacks because their symptoms are different that those of men and its not recognized by the doctor.

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