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Topic: 8,000 lay offs at Johnson & Johnson, my friends are part of it


Topic Posted by: Donna7888
Date Posted: Tue Nov 10 13:52:14 2009
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I cannot believe a company as large as Johnson & Johnson is laying off 8,000 people.  Five of my friends got hit with the notice yesterday.   They aren't managers and are making a very good salary, I'm wondering if the high salary put them in the target zone?

Do you think lay-offs will ever stop?  Do you think the economy is still bleeding? 

My company (pharmaceutical company) hasn't laid one person off and isn't planning on.  They fired someone when I was out on FMLA but he wasn't doing a good job.

Has your company laid off anyone?  Do you think it's going to get better or worse?





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Posted by: Sierra
Date posted: Thu Nov 12 15:30:55 2009
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Wow, Johnson and Johnson?  That is scary.  I work for a mid-sized non-profit and we have had to tighten our belt a little with supplies, etc. but no layoffs. 

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Posted by: farmer brown
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 20:05:20 2009
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I'm concerned about what I see as a long-term decline in U.S. economic might. I worry our recovery will be anemic. 

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Posted by: katiesbeach
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 20:05:00 2009
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Yes, unfortunately, my company has suffered a couple of rounds of lay-offs and some office closings.  The remaining people doubled up on their work and sucked it up.  What other choice do you have?

Our company took some really original measures to save money.  They imposed 5 unpaid holidays per year for EVERYONE in the company.  They are holidays that we normally don't have, like Good Friday, Veterns Day, etc.  This way, they got a whole week of pay from everyone in the company back.  And because they put the memo out in early January '09, people were able to budget for the paycheck that was going to be short.  And they were sot, that it wasn't back to back paychecks. 

Another thing that they did was ask employees to voluntarily go to a 32 hour work week.  I'm not sure how many people actually did this, but at least it was an option.  My boss didn't want any of us to do it, so we didn't.....but I thought about it.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for 2010, because I really love my job.


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Posted by: ingyandbert
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 16:50:15 2009
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That's too bad for your friends, especially when it's a mass lay off and so many people are looking for the same types of jobs.

My company had a few rounds of lay offs over the last year and a half but is slowly beginning to hire again. That's a good thing, because many people here are burned out after doing the work of two people for so long. Some have gotten fed up and found jobs in other companies, so we've lost even more talent and experience even after the lay offs were over. 

The bottom line is that economy is recovering but jobs are always the last area to catch up.  It will take more time for the job market to rebound and until then, there will be further losses.


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Posted by: SusieB
Date posted: Tue Nov 10 14:08:57 2009
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wow 8000 people..is that all in the US or worldwide?

I work for a small city government. 

We have had lay offs and no one got a raise this year.

We have been hit hard with falling property values coupled with an amendment that passed a year or two ago that lowered peoples taxes, so since the bulk of our revenue comes from taxes it resulted in layoffs and no raises.

Also since revenue is down statewide because of short sighted people voting yes on this amendment ( to save on average $200/year on taxes ) fees have gone up on everything including renewals of car registrations and drivers licenses.

When people call to complain about this that or the other going up will ask them ( depending on the caller ) if they voted yes on the amendment...if they say yes, I basically in a nice way explain that people wanting to save couple of hundred bucks has resulted in this. How did they think the shortfall in revenue was going to be made up??? Either services have been cut or fees have been raised....classic example of not seeing the forest for the trees.

I dont think things will get better anytime soon, not sure if they will get worse, but get better....nope, dont see it.

I live in Central Florida.

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  • People want all the government services such as good roads, schools, food inspection, water inspection, fire & Police protection, prisons etc. but think the 'Good Service Fairy' delivers all this stuff. We don't want to pay taxes but still we want services. Yes, I realize tax dollars are often spent foolishly in some people's eyes but we can't pick and choose what we want to support. I for one would veto spending on wars and occupations and would vote for health care for my fellow Americans with no access to healthcare....Sorry, I don't get to choose. I take the bad with the good and suck it up and pay. Elaine
  • As Oliver Wendal Holmes said 'taxes are the price we pay for civilization.' Elaine
  • So true, Elaine. That's the dynamic California, in particular, has been suffering from. ~i&b

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