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Topic: My state (Indiana) ranks 6th in smoking


Topic Posted by: Jolypha
Date Posted: Mon Nov 2 10:06:08 2009
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We are at 24.6 percent, or something very close.  Just about every teen 13 and up in my town is a regular smoker. Every smoking ban proposal is brutally shot down right away.  You should've seen some of the angry letters smokers wrote to newspapers in my area.  Never come between a Hoosier and their Marlboro!

What is your state or town like?





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Posted by: Kentucky
Date posted: Tue Nov 3 6:36:50 2009
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Well,  guess which state is #1 (or 50th by that chart).  We've always been known as the state of VICES-- tobacco, strong spirits (Bourbon County), fast horses and wild women (or is it wild horses and fast women?)  Sorry, that's a very old joke here.

Seriously, that chart is a little old.  I don't know where we rank now, probably still way up there, but this year a tax was put into effect so I would guess cigs are probably around $4 a pack now.  And there's so many bans here now, although the chart shows none.  It's just out of date, because Kentucky, like most other states, is going for ''smoke free''.  And, it does hurt agriculture here, but too bad.

My ex (father of my children) died a few years ago of lung cancer and was told it was because he had smoked all his life.  Thank God my children never picked up his horrible habit. 

Wouldn't it be great to be a smoke-free country!  (Now, if we would just criminalize texting while driving.  That scares me!)

 

 

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  • It sure would be great if it were smoke free and people didn't drive while texting! eom/Jo
  • Actually Kentucky is #1 in smoking & #50 for cost. That chart had me confused at first. The top number is where a state ranks & the one on the right is how much cigarettes cost. So Kentucky has the most smokers & the cheapest cigarettes.......................Liz
  • I see now. I didn't look that close to the chart. However, like I said, things are a lot different here now. We have bans all over, (not ''no bans'') and cigs are about $4 now. Of course, we have always been one of the largest growers of tobacco, and that has been severely cut back. If I can remember, the next time I go to the store, I'm going to inquire about the $ of cigs now....KY

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    Posted by: Jenny
    Date posted: Tue Nov 3 3:19:15 2009
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    I'm not surprised that WA is 46th.  The smokes cost over $5 a pack.  But, when I went to the 7-11, they sell individual ciggies for 89cents!  I guess so the poor or desperate can get a smoke without buying an entire pack.

    This site is a little misleading in that I know Texas allows each city to determine its own laws on smoking.  In Arlington and Fort Worth, no smoking just about everywhere.  I can't imagine people not being able to smoke in a bar, but there ya go. 

    I'm glad I didn't fall into that habit.  I smoked, tried it, even socially smoked when I played cards or went to bars.  But I never enjoyed it and I never smoked alone.  I never wanted one unless I was with someone who wanted one.  Lucky me.  I'm glad.

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  • Both parents smoked and us kids never did. We thought they smelled awful! eom/Jo

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    Posted by: Bonk5
    Date posted: Mon Nov 2 22:46:30 2009
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    I am in Calif. and we have very strict laws, thank goodness. yet teens and young adults continue to smoke. I don't get it! Legalized drug for sure.

    Our city and county started laws in work place back in late 1980's. yes they were fought for awhile. But as more data came out, more restrictions were started. People get used to it.


    No smoking, in restaurants, bars, busses, offices (certain # of people) out door events , fairs (special areas to smoke) in business, stores, my Barber shop, to name a few places.

    Cigs are so much $$$ here in CA. lots of taxes, why waste the money. My daughter found out a friend from HS starting smoking, (they are 20 now) this girl saw her mom smoke and swore she would not. My daughter is very upset this girl stated to smoke.

    Oh, we were in Las Vegas and you can not smoke in restaurant, Hotel Lobbies, rooms but boy do they smoke in the casinos! All those old women with bad teeth or yellow teeth it seems, LOL! Smoke, smoke, smoke. I thought I was going to be ill !!~~~

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  • Oh your link Ca. 14.9 % and 4.24 a pack. Good link. ~~B.
  • My old hair salon allows smoking, one reason I had to quit going there. And you are spot-on about the old women in casinos with yellow teeth. Don't forget the raspy voices! eom/Jo
  • I've heard that people in the casinos here lug their oxygen tanks along & smoke at the same time. I think that should be illegal! I've never set foot in any of the casinos. I'm not a gambler but I am so opposed to secondhand smoke.....................Liz

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    Posted by: Liz
    Date posted: Mon Nov 2 22:18:45 2009
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    Oops, meant to add this link so you can check out where your state ranks.

    http://awesome.good.is/transparency/013/UpInSmoke/

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  • Interesting that the states w/ the least amount of bans have the highest % of smokers. My state ranks 44 w/ a little over 17% of the population that smokes. Makes sense...........DebS
  • Maybe I am not reading the state by state right. I clicked on no ban and I think it said Oregon has no bans but that is not true, they now have bans in Restaurants, some are separated and some have complete no smoking there. ~~B.

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    Posted by: Liz
    Date posted: Mon Nov 2 22:17:58 2009
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    We ranked 17th in the country with over 21% smokers. The Plains Indians are the biggest smoking group in the entire country. I learned that when I worked for the Indian Health Services. Wyoming has several towns that have gone completely smoke free. Laramie was first, followed by Cheyenne. There was a battle royal in Cheyenne. One guy even moved his bar out of the city limits to avoid the smoking ban. I think Casper finally went smoke free as did Jackson. I don't know of any restaurants in our town that allow smoking but most of the bars still do. The most popular bar in town is smoke free. People in Wyoming don't like government interference with anything including smoking. It's quite comical to watch the reactions to just about everything in this state. They are staunchly Republican but not remotely religious.

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  • Don't alot of the indians have lung problems from smoking, as in higher than the average for smokers? eom/Jo
  • Native Americans have higher than usual health problems in general. I don't know that lung disease as a single problem is higher than the national average or not. They suffer disproportionately from diabetes & heart disease but especially violent deaths from automobile accidents to murder..................Liz

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    Posted by: Pronoun
    Date posted: Mon Nov 2 19:49:40 2009
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    Manitoba has been smoke free in all public places for a number of years now. It was really hard on country hotels/pubs. A lot of them went out of business. Almost everyone I know has quit smoking including me. But I still miss it and still want one.

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  • I want them all of the time too. I wish they weren't so bad for you!...........DebS

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    Posted by: DebS
    Date posted: Mon Nov 2 18:55:03 2009
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    MA is a pretty liberal state, therefore, a very non-smoking-friendly state.

    There is no smoking anywhere here - not in bars, restaurants, train stations - not anywhere.

    I have mixed feelings about it - as an ex-smoker, my experience has demonstrated to me that nothing is more dangerous than primary smoke. I don't care how many studies non-smoking groups try to throw at me about second-hand smoke - I have been exposed to both primary and second-hand smoke and I never felt sicker than when I exposed to primary smoke. And thta's why I quit - and why I have enjoyed being a non-smoker.

    I also feel, however, that we should try to convince people to live healthy lives, so the non-smoking thing is good, as long as they don't get militant about it (which they tend to do). Generally, I do think that, with a few exceptions like where children are directly affected   to smoke or not to smoke should be a personal decision.

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  • My parents didn't believe smoking hurt anyone. Ugh! eom/Jo

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    Posted by: UncleJJJ
    Date posted: Mon Nov 2 17:03:38 2009
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    Omaha went smoke free in restaurants and bars about 2 years ago. That law went state wide last July. While I understand the restaurant, I don't understand the bar ban. There is a reason no one ever opened a non smoking bar. Now all the bars have to build little outdoor areas, if they have the room, to accomodate the smokers.

    I hear non smokers say that the bar owners love the no smoking rules because it will mean more customers (all the non smokers that don't want to smell like an ashtray) I have yet to hear one single bar owner say they have had increased business.

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  • Actually, a city I used to live in enacted a smoking ban and after all the dire predictions of certain bar owners that they would be forced out of buiness, their business actually increased because more people came out. ~i&b
  • Maybe its just the biker bars I tend to frequent, but I have not seen an increase in clientele. . . UncleJJJ
  • I think some of it is weather-related, too. People don't come out as much in a cold, windy February as they would in a warm climate. ~i&b
  • I wish we had smoke free bars! I would then go to them. Even the Singles Club meetings are held in smoky enviroments. eom/Jo

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    Posted by: lak
    Date posted: Mon Nov 2 15:48:30 2009
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    Here in Northwest Indiana. A restaurant we frequent once or twice a week had a sign up about a month ago that they were going smokeless. When that date came and went I asked what happened. Guess they had demonstrations outside and many an email against it. Apparantly its a big place after people go to the bars for a bite to eat and they need their cancer sticks. I guess we should have protested they didn't follow through.

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  • The smokers in Muncie are nasty. You should see them whine about any smoking ban. I won't patronize a restaurant that allows smoking. eom/Jo

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    Posted by: Kate
    Date posted: Mon Nov 2 14:15:34 2009
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    That's too bad.

    However, over here in West Central Indiana, we're moving right along on NO Smoking. 

    ''

    Smoke Free Lafayette

    The City of Lafayette implemented a smoke-free ordinance on September 1st, 2008!! The city's smokefree ordinance includes most city workplaces and indoor public gathering areas.

    To view the approved ordinance, click here. A helpful brochure about the ordinance is available here.

    Smoke Free West Lafayette

    West Lafayette has been a smokefree city for one year!! The city's smokefree ordinance includes most city workplaces and indoor public gathering areas. The smokefree ordinance took effect July 1st, 2007!

    For more information visit www.smokefreeWL.org ''

    **in our little town, if one wants to smoke and eat ---- the bars are excluded and private clubs.

    ...after a snarky start, the NO/smoking eased right in. 

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  • Muncie is having a tough time with banning smoking. I want to find some of the Letters to the Editor that the pro smokers have written and post them here. eom/Jo

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    Posted by: serialmom
    Date posted: Mon Nov 2 12:23:00 2009
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    Its very obvious there are many many more smokers in central Florida than there were in Northern Virginia.  The irony is in this area, it seems people with no extra  money are the ones who smoke the $5+ pkgs of cigs.  I see people all the time when I stop in convenience stores buying brand name cigs and a pack of beer. They are riding a bike. Its not for exercize I know they don't own a car.

    People basically don't like to feel they are being told what to do is part of it. Maybe its something they feel they can still control

     

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  • That's how it is around here, too. And I'll see parents buying smokes for their young children. Indiana has enough health issues which costs taxpayers $$$ as it is. Were also high on obesity and low on the scales of outdoor activities like bike trails, swimming, etc. Basically, we smoke alot, eat alot and sit around. It's pathetic we can't be progressive in the area of healthy living like Colorado. eom/Jo

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    Posted by: Peridot
    Date posted: Mon Nov 2 11:26:52 2009
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    I'm not sure where MA ranks but the fact that so many public places in our state are now non-smoking is why I see fewer people lighting up.  I do hear from other parents that some kids are still prone to take up the habit.  It's not for lack of education, since kids around here get the Smoking is Bad for You message from kindergarten on.  It probably has to do with simply being young and thinking you're invulnerable.

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  • Kids do it because it relaxes them and feels good. eom/Jo

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