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Topic: Is Todd Manning Really...Evil...Anymore??..Roger..Trevor...Passive...My Anaysis


Topic Posted by: PhoenixTamer
Date Posted: Sun Nov 15 14:52:39 2009
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This is a guy who:

Hit a woman in the face (Tea)

Raped a woman (Marty)

Brutally beat a minor (Cole)

And a bunch of other despicable, horrendous things that, in real life, would make you stay busy praying he stayed locked up surrounded by white walls weaving baskets forever, but, onscreen, is morbidly fascinating to watch.

For me, the fun in watching Todd Manning was I felt like you never knew what he could do. I saw Trevor in an interview once saying that ''Todd is always about one second away from ripping someone's face off.''

You just never knew when he might just totally FLIP OUT - or what might set him off.

i have watched MOST of Roger's work. What I liked about his portrayal was that he just didn't seem to ever GIVE a @#%@#% about what anyone thought, he would do what he wanted when he wanted and he could go from laughing and smiling and joking to scarily violent in a split second.

I have always liked Trevor too. ALOT. - I never understood why fans couldn't like the work Trevor does just because Roger is gone.

The last thing I saw Todd FLIP OUT on was when he beated up Schuyler Joplin real bad.

Roger's Todd used to have some cool scary them music too. Well, i guess the music department did not lose it because they have used it for Trevor, but RARELY. Ive heard it twice in 2009.

I love what Roger made. And I lov what Trevor shows he CAN do.

But they don't give him anything. Todd is on all the time - hes getting the airtime of a major leading man on a soap, but, outside of the eternal Tea/Todd/Marty/John/Blair loop, he really doesn't have a storyline -and hasn't in awhile.

I wonder if Trevor is pi$$ed.

He plays Todd so passivelately.

I don't know if that is TSJ or specified by the director.

I want the man who for years was known on the show and in the mags and on the net as The Prince Of Darkness back!!!

Chris/PT





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Posted by: Proudmary74
Date posted: Mon Nov 16 3:27:55 2009
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In my opinion now that Mitch is back all bets are off. Maybe the one saving grace of Todd for me is he would be the one character who could fight Mitch the way he deserves to be fought without the restraints of the law. I think that once Mitch is in Llanview, Todd will go to bat for Vicki and his nieces. For one thing Todd owes Vicki big time for the way he simply ignored what was going on with Jessica during that whole horrific Marty obsession. The writers would be making a huge mistake if they don't put him in this fight.

Don't get me wrong. I think Todd is plenty capable of evil, just not with the malice that drives Mitch. Todd's evil comes out of his own self centered need to be in control, and fear of losing everything and everybody he cares about if he doesn't carve it out for himself no matter who he hurts along the way. Mitch not only has to be in control, he seems to genuinely thrive on the chaos that he leaves in his wake and the suffering of others, including those that he deludes himself with believing must love him. The best I can describe Mitch is as a messianic Jim Jones like character. He wants worshipers and followers. Todd really does not care that much if anybody goes along with his program, just that there is someone willing to stick around and pick up the pieces every time he goes off on another self destructive venture. Mitch just wants scorched earth, period.

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  • Great Analysis of BOTH Manning and Mitch, PM!!! - Chris/pt

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    Posted by: Jenny
    Date posted: Mon Nov 16 2:22:55 2009
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    We've all known two or more people with the same first name.

    I just happen to think of TSJ as a different Todd than the Todd of Roger Howarth.  They aren't the same and the characters aren't the same.  I don't blame TSJ for that.  He's an actor.  He wanted a job and RH left.  I blame the writers for any inconsistencies that drive me nuts about Todd/NuTodd. 

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  • ITA. Well said. I will always prefer RH's Todd, but TSJ is certainly capable of playing the part well. It's the writing for Todd that is all wrong. Right now, the only purpose I see him serving is making Blair and Tea look pathetic. //SqueezeMe
  • Jenny!!! Hi!!! :) ... Nice Points!!! - chris
  • Squeeze... you have to give some culpability to Blair and Tea for their own actions, to be fair. ... They do a pretty fair job lately of making themselves look like fools ... - chris/pt
  • Tea and Blair are flawed just like the other characters, and both of them do stupid things sometimes, but my point is that TSJ is a backstop for *their* story. As you pointed out, he doesn't have one. //SqueezeMe
  • Oh. I actually think I agree with that...especially since, as you point out, i said that in the first place LoL!!! - chris

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    Posted by: Rosebud1
    Date posted: Sun Nov 15 18:42:03 2009
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    I haven't found Todd 'facinating' for a very long time.  Part of that is TSJ, who IMO is horribly miscast in the role.  Menacing he is NOT.  Far from it.  Yes, Todd has done some horrible things since TSJ has been playing him, but I haven't found the character nearly as manacing or believeable since the recast.

    Another part of why I don't find him frightening or menacing is because the character isn't written that way.  He has been softened too much & rendered pretty harmless to make Blair look good.  But Blair is another character that should be much more than she is.  She too has been watered down & changed to the point of being unrecognizeable & untrue to her established history--for whatever 'reasons'.  As long as TPTB (Corp) keep trying to make these characters 'appealing' to their own destruction, they aren't going to be appealing, IMO.

    Todd & Blair could/should be interesting, multi-faceted characters w/dark sides, as well as light.  But they are SO watered down that they have become uninteresting characters in bland, weak, lousy stories.  It also doesn't help that they don't really circulate in a community.  It is all about THEM &, frankly, that gets boring.

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  • Thanks for your input, RB!!! - chris

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    Posted by: lurdane22
    Date posted: Sun Nov 15 16:15:55 2009
    Message:

    I'm guessing its the calm before the storm.  The eye of the storm?

    I see Todd is trying to act like everyone has asked him to be for years.   The question should be what flips The Prince of Darkness' switch.   I don't think the flip will be Todd finding out about Dani.

    Now if Rex's dad would of turned out to be Peter Manning, we would of seen the flip.   I think alot of the show was put on idle until TPTB figured out who would be the daddy.  I think Mitch was a last resort.

    If Peter was to of came back, I think it would of fit into where Todd is now.  

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  • What would be REALLY Cool is if it was the Calm befoe the Eye of the storm!!! ...Thatd be intense!!! ... I have been thinking what you have been thinking but have thinking too that i may be getting my hopes up - and i don't like thinking that....i really don't like thinking, now that im thinking about it....Anyway, Yes, like you, ive been thinking that tptb may have this big bif typical Todd Manning SL brewing for all the Prince of Darkness Fans (fans of crazy/evil todd) but i don't want to get my hopes up in case there is not one coming up and the writers have just lost a feel for the character......and thats what* I* THINK about it!!! - chris/pt

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