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Topic: Kish talk, including inappropriate speculation!


Topic Posted by: Gallagher
Date Posted: Wed Nov 4 9:58:52 2009
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FIRST - I have to say that yesterday's scenes with Kish completely made up for some of the hocume we've had to endure - the preachiness - the stupidity of the Big Gay Wedding - bi-curious Shane (I swear, Roxy didn't succeed in making Rex completely gay, she will with the boy) - Nick the bad acting, non-blinking third gay man on OLTL - all totally worth it to get to those scenes on the roof.

All of that excessive stuff was annoying distraction from what had become a pretty strong story they had been building for awhile - one that seemed to hit a home run and its peak when Oliver came out to his folks.

In the end the show delivered a really well done "conclusion" (its a soap, so it can't be over, of course) that ultimately got back to being character driven. As I did with the Powell Lord storyline, I will put up with a lot of BS as long as there is a decent payoff, and I felt I got it yesterday (more than even the big moment at the wedding on Monday). They were written, and it played out, just two more characters in love who finally are admitting it and figuring out what to do next - like Bo and Nora, even.

Ok...now that that is out of the way...

I have plenty of gay and lesbian friends, and as such have become comfortable joking around with them, so if this is over the line for anyone I apologize - I just want to pose the question (completely for humor's sake), but one I'm sure more than a few people have thought (no matter where they stand on the issue and storyline)...ok...here it goes...

Between Kyle and Fish - whose the "top" and whose the "bottom"?

:)

Oh, COME ON! I know at sometime you wondered the same thing! You might have said, "I wonder who the man or woman is," and some viewers might have gone further to even imaging "it." Completely understandable - with the other characters, little is left to the imagination. When Todd dives under the covers head first and Tea screams a "coo" we know what's happening. Hell, I would wager a guess that the haters are more obsessed with what specifically goes on between Kish in the sack than the rest.

Anyway...my guess is Fish is totally the top - seems in keeping with his midwestern, coplike upbringing. Also the fact that he (drunkenly) was able to sow the seed for Auntie Whorebag. Now, I know what you are saying - Kyle seems the more together, in control one - but as I have been told, "the bottom always chooses the top." And if that's the case, then I would hasten a guess that if the characters/writers were forced to label them - well...yeah, that's where I think it would go. So to speak.

I doubt we'll get any sort of pillow biting scene to confirm one thing or the next, but I suspect at some point in the next year there might be some sort of signal or code RC and company throw out there.

ALL JOKING ASIDE - I think the actor who plays Kyle is one of the best the show has right now - the characters of Fish and Kyle are terrific and have great potential - and I hope that their "gay" storyline is entering the relationship phase, that OLTL (a) doesn't beat us over the head with it but (b) doesn't brush them aside, which would be easy to do. I mean - let's face it - the two are REALLY supporting characters on the show; both have jobs on the show which put them in a lot of other people's storylines (cop and doctor) and neither is connected to any of he core families (well, until Fish learns that he's going to be a father to Shane's cousin and Gigi's nephew or niece) - so, they could EASILY slip into the Michael and Marcy roles.

(Hmmmm...but which one is Michael and which one is Marcy...?"

;)





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Posted by: connie
Date posted: Wed Nov 4 21:41:29 2009
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kyle seems to be The bottom. Fish needs to be He just has to lay there. It may be to much for him to do.

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  • Saying Fish lays there like a fish? ;)
  • Fish is a useless Fish .

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    Posted by: lurdane22
    Date posted: Wed Nov 4 17:47:33 2009
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    My guess Kyle is the bottom.  My guess comes from it looks like Kyle trys to snuggle up to Fish's neck (gil?).

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    Posted by: Brhannada^sArmour
    Date posted: Wed Nov 4 15:02:20 2009
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    I think Oliver's the homemaker because he's tidier, and Kyle will be the one to do their tax returns. Kyle will be the dad by whom Ikura prefers to be caught doing something off-limits, but Oliver will be the dad who has trouble saying no in the first place. As for the X-rated stuff, I imagine it like this...

    Oliver (squinting): ''That makes me all tingly.''

    Kyle: 'This is true.''

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    Posted by: TParis
    Date posted: Wed Nov 4 13:55:45 2009
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    Bi-curious Shane??! That's funny. But i just took it as Shane wanting to witness something that he'd been told was big and important. Of course i'm also a relatively new viewer (i watched on and off in the '90's and the occasional episode since then) so i haven't seem all of what Rox has told or not told, or done or not done to Shane regarding that area. But i'm sure it was fun to watch either way.

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    Posted by: Miss.Bear
    Date posted: Wed Nov 4 13:28:22 2009
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     I hope they don't ever show us know who's doing what with who as far as Kyle and Fish go. Not something most viewers are going to want to tune in to.  When is this show being cancelled again?

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  • It took you almost four hours to read this and express your disapproval of gay sex. Were you out scoring some weed? --Crane eom
  • I have every right to express my disapproval of gay sex on daytime T.V.
  • You chose to come into this discussion, knowing what it was going to contain. You can't let a single discussion about Kyle, Fish and Nick go by without jumping in to share how much you disapprove of gays. It's amazing. I'm beginning to think you hate gays more than you love marijuana. --Crane eom
  • lol..Miss b you asked for that one..... Relax, the gay storyline will slowly fade away. But I'll bite.... Fish is probably the b*tch *bottom*
  • Oh give it a rest Crane. It has nothing to do with hatered. I just don't want to see certain things and I have every right to express that without getting jumped on every time. When every other post is about this gay story and when the show happens to be mostly about these characters lately it's hard not to express an opinion even if not the one you approve of. I'm not upset I'm actually quite mellow right now. Just want express my view like everybody else.

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    Posted by: Herb Callison
    Date posted: Wed Nov 4 11:30:23 2009
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    Galagher as a gay man I am not at all offended by your speculation.  Honestly I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday!  lol!  Anyway I don't get a clear top or bottom vibe from either one of them...they could both be versatile but if there was to be a clear role I would have to guess Kyle is the bottom. 

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  • Yeah, I think they are versatile.
  • yea i vote vers too.... they seem to like sharing affection for one another and each 'turn' has it's moment's
  • I'd vote versatile too. Moreover, stereotyping in this regard is often incorrect.

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    Posted by: gemini
    Date posted: Wed Nov 4 11:24:51 2009
    Message:
    Since when is it an either or? Woman can be on top to you know. lol
    In my personal friendships with gay couples It's obvious who the woman is, but as for the top/bottom issue they probably take turns. Most straight couples do.

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