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Topic: Anyone else think the Shane reveal was a letdown?


Topic Posted by: ladfan
Date Posted: Wed Aug 27 10:13:21 2008
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I was expecting so much more from the scenes when Gigi finally tells Rex about Shane.  I don't know if it was the writing or the acting, I was disappointed.  Where was the outrage?  Where were the tears?  Rex didn't even seem particularly angry with Gigi.  Both actors disappointed me.  JPL underplayed Rex's feelings in those scenes.  FF who overacts in almost every scene, decides to hold back on the one occassion that calls for it?  I was expecting a big confrontation that lasted the whole show and I got very little. 





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Posted by: cake
Date posted: Fri Aug 29 2:51:08 2008
Message:

i posted last night, but it didn't go through for some reason. 

i don't like how they made adrianna turn into a brat, especially b/c she was so far from that when she first came into the show. part of it may have to do with dorian, and also she became even worse once gigi came into the picture (i believe that was done to accommodate the rex & gigi pairing). anyways, adrianna was wrong for lying to rex, but she was right to sense that rex was developing feelings for gigi. in a way, rex was lying to adrianna by denying his feelings for gigi.

i agree, i don't like how rex forgave gigi so quickly but couldn't forgive adrianna. what adrianna did was wrong, but like i mentioned above, she had reason to be insecure. i understand why gigi lied years ago, and i could even understand gigi not wanting to let rex know when she initially came to llanview b/c he was engaged to adrianna. that said, once she saw what rex went through with charlie, she should have come clean. even if the wedding was disrupted, she could have told rex any other time, so that was a lame excuse. not only is she lying to rex, she is lying to shane.

rex was looking for a reason to get rid of adrianna. he came down hard on her for lying, but he lied about tommy, he tried to manipulate jessica, he pushed himself b/w jenn and joey.

i wasn't that invested in the SL to be disappointed b/c i usually fast-fwd gigi, but i agree that it was definitely rushed and could have been better written. also, i almost lost it when rex told gigi "it was always you".................since when????????????????? they had a fling when they were teenagers, he never acted like it ever meant more than that to him.

 

 

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  • ICAM with you about the Adrianna/Rex dynamic. Adrianna knew that Rex had feelings for Gigi even before Rex admitted it to himself. Rex was looking for a way out and he took it at the first opportunity. ladfan

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    Posted by: Curtoid
    Date posted: Thu Aug 28 11:11:51 2008
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    Not sure what much else could have been done - seldom do these reveals cause people to travel through time!

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  • I will give Rex/Gigi that. Thankfully, the truth did bring them back to 2008. ladfan

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    Posted by: lurdane22
    Date posted: Thu Aug 28 0:04:39 2008
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    Now will Rex be able to forgive Roxy?

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  • That is a good question. He might forgive Roxy now. ladfan

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    Posted by: SqueezeMe
    Date posted: Wed Aug 27 14:22:18 2008
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    True, it was rushed, but I thought it was a nifty way to get them back to the present, and all I feel is relief.  It took forever for Gigi to tell, and I really wasn't looking forward to another month of Rex being angry and refusing to forgive her.  They both made mistakes, and they both admitted them.  Now they can move on.

    Besides, isn't Adrianna due back any day now?  Seems like they may be rushing Gigi and Rex into forgiveness and commitment so that Adrianna can wreck it all for the new, happy couple.  I can't WAIT until Rex finds out she has known about Shane all this time.

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  • Actually, the fact that Adrianna knew and didn't tell Rex should bring Rex/Gigi closer no? It will make it easier for Rex move on (not that he hasn't already). Adrianna the monster kept poor Gigi from telling Rex the truth. ladfan
  • True. It does look like Brody will be the problem, and not Adrianna. I guess I'm just wishing for high drama among the threesome, rather than some sappy redemption for Adrianna (who doesn't need it in my book). //SqueezeMe
  • I am with you. I don't want a sappy redemption for Adrianna either. Adrianna did the crime and lost her man. She doesn't need redemption. I like her as the bad girl. ladfan
  • Exactly. She's a Cramer woman, spawned by THE Cramer woman, and they were all bad girls in their youth. //SqueezeMe

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    Posted by: Edward
    Date posted: Wed Aug 27 13:11:19 2008
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     The show has been so bad lately I didn't even bother to watch Tuesday's show. I should be kicking myself for missing the big Shane reveal, but from what you guys have said, it was a big let down. I cannot believe how incredibly fast this show has switched from character-driven to plot-driven. It figures they'd rush this reveal because they're more concerned with the next cartoonish plot development.

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  • I don't think you missed much. ladfan

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    Posted by: Wanda Wolek
    Date posted: Wed Aug 27 10:29:01 2008
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    It felt rushed and anti-climatic.  Even the fact that the reveal brought them back to 1968 seemed a little lacking.  I thought JPL was good, but the script didn't give him long to be angry.  Considering that he broke up his marriage to Adrianna over her lies, he did accept Gigi's excuse rather easily.  I wish the writers had mentioned Adrianna during this.  Gigi was worried that Rex would stop loving her because of her lies, which is basically what Rex did with Adrianna.  So why not just mention the "A" word and put it on the table?  I like FF as Gigi, but those scenes did show her limitations as an actress.  But I still think the cause of the disappointment lies mainly with the writers.  The immediate aftermath of the reveal should have been a little slower and layered. 

     

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  • You summed it up well. No mention of Adrianna, which doesn't surprise me because she might as well be dead, the way Rex acts. Rex is a rank hypocrite for barely blinking an eye about Gigi's lies when he LEFT Adrianna over much less. I know you like Rex/Gigi, but once they decided to make them Romeo/Juliet, they did a disservice to Adrianna and Rex. Gigi is still ok because SHE has always claimed to love Rex. But Rex barely remembered her. The writing was just too rushed. They draw out the most inane of plots and this deserved better. ladfan
  • I agree-this scene really showed FF's limitations as an actress.-lj
  • As you said, at least it got them back to the present. I like Gigi and Rex together, but they could totally give Shane to Brody, and I wouldn't care. I read that Adriana will be back for a few shows. Wonder what that will entail.
  • ladfan, I don't think that makes Rex a hypocrite. I think Rex considered their motivations and believes that, while they both lied to him, Adrianna's lies were to manipulate him, while Gigi's were, at least in part, to protect their son. I actually thought Gigi did a pretty good job of answering all his questions about why she lied. //SqueezeMe
  • A good job answering his questions?? Are you kidding? She looked foolish trying to come up with an excuse. It was really embarrassing to have to watch that.
  • SM, I agree that Gigi gave some good answers to Rex's questions. And I'm willing to give Rex a pass for what ladfan sees as his hypocrisy. If MF hadn't been leaving the show, it would have been interesting to watch Rex deal with Adrianna's lies. But she was leaving, the writers needed to disconnect Rex from her to move him on to a new pairing and this is how they chose to do it. And IA that Adrianna's lies were to manipulate the situation and Rex while Gigi's lies were to protect Shane. Wanda
  • ,,.and Gigi's lies weren't used to manipulate a situation? What's with the double standard? Adrianna's lies are bad, Gigi's lies are understandable. I do not get it.
  • Wanda and SM, if you think Gigi's lies were to protect Shane, how do you explain her declarations of love to Rex at his wedding? Gigi lied to his face when he asked her if he was Shane's father. She had plenty of opportunities to tell Rex and she didn't. As all of us have said, this is rushed writing to reunite Rex/Gigi, but it makes Rex's behavior inconsistent. He loves Gigi and he can forgive her, he didn't love Adrianna, so he broke up the marriage. It is as simple as that. ladfan
  • ladfan, I don't understand what her declaration of love at the wedding has to do with her lies. She wasn't lying when she told him she loved him. And the next words out of her mouth were supposed to be ''Shane is your son,'' but then Brody walked in. I know her excuses for not telling sooner were lame, but I do believe she made several attempts. It's not like she had decided never to tell. And I do believe she was then and is now trying to do all of this in the way that is best for Shane. Did she lie and manipulate just like Adrianna? Yes. But as I said, there is the mitigating factor of Shane in the mix for her, whereas Adrianna doesn't have that excuse for her lies. It looks to me like it was enough for Rex, but I am not at all surprised that it wasn't enough for some viewers, especially the ones who don't like her (not referring to you here). //SqueezeMe
  • P.S. ladfan, do you really think Rex didn't love Adrianna? Ever? I think he really did. Or at least, I think HE believed he did. //SqueezeMe
  • Miss.Bear, I explained it above as well as I know how. Adrianna's lies = all about what Adrianna wanted. Gigi's lies = partly about what Gigi wanted, partly about Gigi protecting her son. I'm not using a double standard. Lies are lies, and both women were wrong. I'm just explaining why I think *Rex* is using different standards to judge them. //SqueezeMe
  • Ladfan is right on!! Everyone else is wrong. He can forgive Gigi, but not Adrianna? Gigi lied right to his face many times. He always took her side over Adrianna's. As soon Gigi and her little brat came Adrianna may as well not even exist. Gigi's lies were much bigger than Adrianna's lie by far.
  • SM, I meant Rex was not in love with Adrianna *at the time* of their confrontation. He did love her, but that changed once Gigi came into the picture. Good point about Brody walking in and ruining Gigi's declaration at the wedding. I forgot about that. Also, I AM one of those who doesn't like Gigi, and maybe that is why I thought she didn't deserve instant forgiveness. One good thing came out of this, they came back to 2008 and I am happy about that. ladfan
  • Okay ladfan, I see what you were saying now. I know you don't like Gigi, but I also know your point of view is informed by more than your dislike. Not so for everyone (obviously). //SqueezeMe
  • SM, thanks for clarifying that. I don't want to be mistaken for a Gigi fan :) ladfan

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