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Topic: In all Serialness, Why do You REALLY think Lanviews Gals Obsess Over Todd/John?


Topic Posted by: PhoenixTamer
Date Posted: Thu Oct 29 16:47:07 2009
Additional Comments:

Id like to have a semi-seious discussion about this topic whiich probably focuses on the characters of:  Todd, John, Dr Marty, Blair and Tea. (Maybe Natalie too...because of John)

I know all the REAL WORLD reasons: They are the man characters, the writers have to write for them and put them together and TRIANGLES are (in today's writer's minds) the crux of Soaps etc etc etc...

But psychologically, in the minds of these chicks, why would they spend the better part of their lives obsessing over these two dudes???

I mean, I like Jonathan McBain alot and can kinda see his good qualities...loyal, faithful, a cop, a good guy, likes to save gal's lives like every day...but, is he SO special that all these chicks obsess over him all their lives?????????????????????????????????????????

And Toddly T Manning...I love him...Alot...but he doesn't even have John's good qualities. He is ARGUABLY abusive and he is homicidal...he is not faithful...or honest...and, oh yeah, he is so loony crazy he should be weaving baskets all day and every day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, and I almost forgot - he is a Rapist! (When you almost forget 'Rape' on your list of bad qualities about a guy you know hes no Angel lol!!!

SOOOOOO, IN CONCLUSION....Why do YALL think Natalie, Party, Blair and Tea dig them so much.

ME???????????? I think these 5 women share a common quality of all being Damaged in some way, and they have alwyas seen John and Todd as their way to ''Fix'' themselves...

Does anyone else think thats kinda sad?

What do yall think about these gals?

chris/pt





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Posted by: Ice Cream Soldier
Date posted: Fri Oct 30 17:24:59 2009
Message:
Women like Todd because he has some serious $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I've seen this too often in real life- most women will throw themselves at rich men, they want that money, they don't care if he's ugly, 106 years old, or a serial killer, they want that money. Women like John because he's a hero, he puts the creeps behind bars and he's protective of the women he loves, maybe a little too protective.

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  • ICS -- I totally agree with you about some women feeling safe with John McBain...As for Todd, there are lots of Rich Men in the world...maybe women really DO like that little bit of 'Dangerous' that he has???? - chris

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    Posted by: Proudmary74
    Date posted: Fri Oct 30 3:32:46 2009
    Message:
    Todd and John both have a large fan base?
    John for me, is easier to understand the attraction. There is a kind of Eyeore complex to him. He's sabotaged every relationship he's ever been in I think, because he doesn't think he's worth it or he thinks he's bad luck, and many on this board would agree with him. I think he tends to draw either women with either low self esteem themselves or a rescue complex that is even greater than the one he has himself. That may be part of why he seems so obsessed with rescuing damsels in distress, that deep down inside the person he most wants to rescue is himself, but he can't as long as he thinks he's not worth rescuing, so the cycle goes on and on. Anyway, there's enough of the wounded puppy dog in him to draw women to the trap, and by the time they are starting to get the jaws open, he's chewed his leg free anyway and then he wants to run from them.

    Todd is harder for me, because he is just vicious. He's the untameable horse, maybe. He bites the hand of any woman who dares to try to rescue him from himself and maybe it's just that challenge of how tame him without getting bitten or kicked or killed in the process that keeps them coming back for more. I guess it takes a strong women, someone largely untameable themselves like Blair, who has hung in there the longest. I don't like untamed horses. I have been bucked off, stepped on, kicked, and had an abrupt encounter with a low branch where I swear the animal was laughing at me. Therefore I avoid these encounters at all cost.

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  • Thanks for your thoughts PM...I really agree with you mostly on John...especially about him being trapped in a 'Cycle' ...I agree too that I think he wishes someone would rescue HIM ... John is a Classic Overcompensator - chris

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    Posted by: CaroleA
    Date posted: Thu Oct 29 21:59:02 2009
    Message:
    Because they're smokin' hot!

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  • You think Todd and John are Hot??????? ... Im not saying theyre NOT! - Just that im not a good judge of that sort of thing...i WILL say, however, that Marty is pretty...Blair is still pretty Strong and...Nat/Tea = STEAM!!! - chris
  • You know it's me, right? (sea) Well, we have disagreed before and we do again. First of all, Marty is not pretty--not my opinion, a fact. Blair still looks good--best hair in television. Natalie is beautiful, but Tea--not so much. eom/sea
  • Of course I know you Sea!!! :-) ... We agree mostly this time...xcept, I do happen to think Tea is Highly Beautiful... - chris
  • Yeah, Chris, but you think that Selma Upchuck and Saundra Santiago are hot.... Selma has always given me the creeps and I'm too used to SS as a major villain from GL to be unbiased. I'm not into beards, but there was always something about ME. Todd-hmmm, my memory of what he looks like is fading, but I definitely found him attractive. vh
  • well, vh - we all have our faults ;) ... - chris

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    Posted by: vh
    Date posted: Thu Oct 29 20:25:11 2009
    Message:

    "In all Serialness"

     

    very clever!  = )

    will ponder and maybe answer tomorrow after work.

    Aren't you ever drawn to women you know would be bad for you?

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  • You know what VH, in regarding to your last question you posed...yeah, I have been...I don't know why (i don't think its the ''I want what I can't Have thing'')...Maybe when we get involved with someone and its a Toxic relationship we think maybe can want to 'Fix' them? Or want them to 'Fix' us??? ... I mean, I know ALL Soap Guys are Monumentally-Messed Up, but Todd Manning and John McBain take thje cake - and there ARE other guys in lanview....Also, These women-folk in question are all HUGELY HOT so they can have their pick. Hot Women get away with anything thats why life is easy for them. Oh, Im trying to get away from the Non-PC terms 'Gals' and 'Chicks' (which is why i said 'Women Folk) ... I think Marty Saybrooke has some twisted eternal obsession with Todd and I think Natalie LIKES messed up guys....Tea and Blair puzzle me....Maybe they just hate each other enough to keep stealing the same guys from each other??? Women, especially ones that don't work (like blair) - do that alot. Anyway, theres my theories. I may be right, I may be slightly off, but I'll never know either way because I will NEVER understand Womens!!! :) ... - chris
  • Aww, Chris, it's not that hard! We just want to be loved and respected, appreciated! Now help me out, how do I understand mens? Plus, I answered your response on the Days personal board under your hard choices thread...expecting to hear from you!! vh
  • vh - you (women, i mean) have the EASIEST job in the whole wide world!!! (trying to understand men, i mean) ... we are simple.......its US (men, i mean) that have the Hardest Task EVER - trying to figure out WOMEN!!! - chris

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