One Life To Live Discussion Group -- Who Would Love For Roger Howarth To Return To OLTL As Todd????

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Topic: Who Would Love For Roger Howarth To Return To OLTL As Todd????

Topic Posted by: Vivian Daniels
Date Posted: Sat Oct 24 5:22:22 2009
Additional Comments: I would. I'm not really feeling Trevor St. John as Todd. Roger IS THE BEST Todd hands down. And I want him with Blair. If this happens I will start watching again. TPTB, make this happen ok. Thanks!!!

Posted by: gemini
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 10:19:22 2009
Message:
Todd Manning doesn't exist WITHOUT Roger. Yes, I want him back.

Posted by: GHFan
Date posted: Tue Oct 27 21:58:47 2009
Message:
No, I'm not wishing for Howarth back--all I wish is that they would send creepy, psychopathic Todd away to a sanitarium ASAP.
I find it simply impossible to believe intelligent women such as Blaire and Tea would stay in the same room with him, much less be infatuated. He is so twisted he is dangerous. In either actor's playing of this most dispicable role, I see no saving grace, no appeal and no emotional stability. So why would these women, both of whom have suffered thru his abuse several times, be in the least drawn to him, other than to want to call the men in white coats to get him off the street.
Todd as a character is NOT a leading man. Good looks do NOT a leading man make. Unfortunately, Todd has always been dangerously squewered, right from the beginning and there is nothing redeemable there. When he tossed his daughter down a stairs while she was pregnant--well, that should have finished ANY feeling for him Blaire still harbored.
There is no explaining Tea.
I like the actresses and wish they had a better story. I look forward to Blaire turning to Ross. Now THAT would be a good pairing.

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See this is why they never should have recast the role. RH knew Todd should never be a romantic lead. He made sure of it. TSJ never had the same investment in the character. The 1 redeeming quality Todd had was he wasn't a womanizer. He was 1 woman man. NOW he's an ordinary soap lead who could be planted on any soap with the name, Tom , Dick or Harry...Todd Manning doesn't exist anymore PERIOD...G

G: ICAM! eom

I will have to say that Roger did engage my interest because Todd was really sullen, introverted, self-invested and in some pain about who he was. Didn't stop him from being a monster. There were moments I almost felt something for him--sadness, a kind of pity and disgust. And that is what I think we should feel for Todd. I don't see the self-awareness here, but Todd was never big on that anyway. But I really don't want RH back--I just want them to stop playing Todd as a leading man. He is a sicko, not romance material. GHFan

GHFan the only way for that to happen is if RH was playing Todd, any other actor isn't invested like RH was since he helped create the role. RH said numerous times that as long as he was Todd Todd would not be fully redeemed or be seen as a romantic lead. Every time they tried he left. Now they get to do what they see fit & it has totally destroyed who the character was & should have remained...G

Posted by: Wanda Wolek
Date posted: Mon Oct 26 12:57:18 2009
Message:

I liked RH as Todd, but I also like TSJ. I much prefer how TSJ plays Todd without asking for our sympathy. He's an amoral jerk and that's the way TSJ plays him. I always felt that even though RH hated Todd, he wanted us to like him (RH). I also felt that RH's dislike of Todd limited what the writers could do for the character.

So, short answer, no, I don't want RH back as Todd.

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Hopefully when they cancel ATWT Roger Howarth will get a job on the Young and The Restless or General Hospital, he was good as Todd but TSJ is Todd now.

I thought the same thing, Tony. I also considered the idea that if TK doesn't want to commute to AMC, RH could take over the Zach Slater role. Wanda

Like just about everyone else, in the beginning, I liked RH's portrayal of Todd. As time went on, not so much. Went off the deep end with face making and in general crappy acting. I think he really didn't like the character and chose to play him that way actually. Also, I didn't like the way he supposedly dictated to the writers how he wanted the character written. Let the writers write and the actors need to act. The current Todd does not seem to have any such hang ups and that is the one advantage to having him in the role over Howarth. If for no other reason, I vote to keep him.

I doubt that RH is going to be doing the LA/Hollywood thing again, even for another soap. He has been there, done that & moved back to NYC. His family is on the east coast & his kids aren't babies anymore. eom

Like everyone else in this economy, I'm sure RH will go where the work is. Wanda

Wanda, that is an excellent suggestion!!

Wanda: Not everyone finds work in LA! Lots of actors who started on soaps have tried primetime & features w/little or no luck. They've ended up coming back to soaps (particularly if they have a family to support) & RH was one of those. He also wasn't the first to say that he didn't particularly like it in CA. Yes, actors will go where the work takes them, but that can also mean making the cross country commute. eom

But KarenK, the face making is what made his lines funny. I may not have liked a lot of what Todd did but when he threw a line with the faces, I was hysterical. LOL! Precious

Posted by: Edward
Date posted: Mon Oct 26 12:04:14 2009
Message:
Makes no difference to me. Todd is still an amoral, unlikeable jerk no matter who is playing him. That said, Todd would probably whine a lot more with RH playing him because he sure is whiny on ATWT.

Posted by: TNTFaithful
Date posted: Sun Oct 25 22:55:48 2009
Message:

I've always wanted to see RH back on OLTL. It would be a treat to see him back with Florencia Lozano... oh and Erika S., Bob Woods, Hillary Smith, Kristen Alderson... I'd even like to see him in scenes with Kassie D. ;)

Posted by: Pat
Date posted: Sun Oct 25 1:14:33 2009
Message:
Oh please, not another face changing story!

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Honestly, it depends on how they do it. Since this is a discussion involving Roger H., I'll use him as an example. I thought the idea of a microchip in Paul's brain was probably the dumbest idea EVER. Surprising to pretty much everyone, it turned out to be a saving grace. I don't know how the heck they made that happen but they did. Personally, I'm going to wait to see how they do the change, if they do it and go from there.

Posted by: Rhonda
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 17:46:04 2009
Message:
I completely prefer TSJ's Todd to RH's but for the first time in a long while, I think it's quite possible RH may eventually return for several reasons:

1. If ATWT gets cancelled, RH would need a paycheck, and it's a little late in the day for him to try to break into prime-time and movies again.

2. Daytime TV is dying and desperate -- getting RH back would generate publicity. Would that publicity turn into a ratings bonanza? Doubtful, but ABC might want to take a chance and roll the dice.

3. Jonathan Jackson returning to play Lucky makes me think anything can happen.

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Just hope that if he did wish to return if ATWTs gets cancelled that OLTL will still be on the air as well. The rumors as just as strong for OLTLs cancellation as ATWTs! /Adele

Posted by: Gallagher
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 16:52:32 2009
Message:

Put a "Hell" before that "No."

Posted by: Rosebud1
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 11:02:10 2009
Message:
I've always thought that TSJ was miscast as Todd. Personally, I've never bought him in the role. But I'm not so sure that just returning RH to the role would do the trick at this point. A LOT of damage has been done to the character of Todd & that wouldn't, most likely, change w/a simple cast change.

The writing for Todd hasn't been good for yrs. The character isn't nearly as complex, interesting or compelling as he once was. IMO, pairing him w/Blair was a mistake from the start.

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I don't think that any one character will be an instant fix. To think that would over estimate the importance of one character to the show. However, I do want RH back and would come back full time if he did. He's not the show's saviour but he will provide a bump for it.

ICAM, one actor/character isn't going to 'fix' the problems. The problems don't exist for just one character, they exist for all of them. One actor isn't going to change the audience's mind about tuning out either. Not if the issues around crappy storytelling & devaluing the audience don't change. But those aren't as easily accomplished or as 'sexy' as bringing back a popular performer--although RH might not be so interested, given how they've emasculated Todd & changed his overall perspective--& not for the better. eom

The fact that you don't know who the OP is doesn't make her any less of a troll than Gallagher. And frankly, I'm not being sensitive at all, I'm just as sick of all the name calling and accusations of some sort of diabolical agenda. What's next, all of the people who want RH back are trying to get TSJ fired?

That goes one below.

Actors get fired all the time, particularly on soaps! They don't go into this business for long term employment. They know that a) most jobs last no more than a few weeks, not yrs, b) that there is over a 90% rate of unemployment and c) that most can't make a living at their craft. This isn't a personal attack on TSJ, by most of those who wouldn't mind seeing him gone. I've never bought him as Todd, pure & simple. But the problems w/the character aren't as simple as the actor playing the part. RH could come back tomorrow, but the other parts of the problem would still exist. Namely, the lame writing & lack of understanding of the character. There has been a lack of focus & direction for the whole show over the last several yrs, not just a problem/issue w/casting (or recasting). eom

Posted by: Dead Horse
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 10:14:52 2009
Message:
Stop beating me!

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No kidding! Really tired of the trolls going to every message board trying to push their silly little agenda. /eom/ Gallagher

And I'm really tired of trolls complaining about those who say they want Roger Howarth back. Stop being so feaking sensitive and get over the fact than not everyone likes TSJ and not everyone is pushing an agenda.

Gallagher is in no way a troll. He posts by his name and he has posted on this board for years. I don't even know who the OP is. Never saw a post by her/him on this board before, and yet the first one is one destined to rile people up. By definition, that is a troll. So, Gallagher doesn't want RH back. Stop being so sensitive, yourself, TNTFaithful. Wanda Wolek

OP has posted on the Y&R board. So not a troll.

Posted by: NJ
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 9:02:05 2009
Message:
I'm really torn on this....I loved his Todd so much and even though it's been like 6 years since he's been gone I just have never taken to TSJ in the role. So because of my love for the character the answer is yes...but I also really like his take on Paul Ryan...he's just not used enough over there in my opinion...but I would really miss him so...I'm not sure. I guess if One Life would use him more than one day a week I'd be all for it. Too bad he couldn't do both shows.