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Topic: I wish someone would knock John off his high horse. Quit your crying Tea!

I hate John's smug superior attitude with everyone.  When Clint walked into his own cabin, John asks him in that smug dismissive tone 'What are you doing here Clint'?  How about because it is his frackking cabin??  I wish Clint had let his rifle do the talking.  I can't believe John would talk to someone of Clint's stature in that manner.  I can see that this is becoming yet another case of supercop saves the day.  Now even Brody has joined the cult.  I hate John's judgemental attitude with everyone.  I wish for once, John is wrong and Natalie proves Jared's innocence without his help. 

Will Tea every stop crying?  Man, she annoys me.  She cries with everyone.  Be it Viki, Blair, Todd, Carlotta and even Jack.  She is saying goodbye to Jack and darn it, she has to blubber.  I hate her whining about that loser.  Stop crying Tea or at least move to Africa.  I hear that continent has a serious water shortage.

Marty needs a serious makeover.  That mess of a hair and those clothes don't look professional.  A doctor has to look put together, not messy.  Marty needs to go on 'What not to wear'.  But yay for Blair remembering about Tea's child.   Although sometimes I wish Blair never remembered.  Let this be Tea's secret and hers alone.

Ross and elijah were fun.  I could buy these two as brothers.  They have a natural chemistry.  I find Ross falling this quickly for Blair a bit too convenient.

BTW, I still don't like nuCarlotta.  It was strange to see her today.  I don't care for her dialog delivery.  Cristian and Layla were good.  But I do get Layla's reasoning for not wanting to hook up with him.  Finally someone who puts family before a man.  I know they will eventually get together, but for now she stopped.

I just can't take Saundra (Sondra?) Santiago as Carlotta.  It may just be that her Carmen Santos portrayal on GL is just so ingrained in me but I can't see her as anything but false and lethal.  She's about as sexy as a snake and so opposite of Carlotta.

The idea of a younger, wilder sister would have been much easier to take.

Agree about it being way too early for Ross to be that smitten with Blair.

Blair, as usual makes me sick.  Marty on the other hand, is much more palatable with Blair than with John or Cole.  Oh, yeah, those Starr and Cole scenes-whatever.  If Starr thinks her family is so crazy, she ought to look at her own behavior.  Yeesh, she's hardly "normal" unless you compare her to the Osborne kids!

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Starr and Cole always make me sick. Yes, Starr should look in the mirror. The nuCarlotta is not good, but the younger and wilder sister idea could have worked. ladfan

Yeah, LOL, Starr thinks her family is crazy? I remember the fascination little Starr had with spiders, lizards, snakes, etc.! It was totally weird. It's a shame, Starr has become so boring since they hooked her up with Cole and she had the baby. They could have really gone far with her character, but I don't know how it could be fixed now. The damage is done.//pf

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Posted by: Miss.Bear
Date posted: Tue Oct 20 3:24:51 2009
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Ohhhhh is that what Tea was supposed to be doing?? That was crying? What poor acting there. She didn't look like she was crying. Her makeup was in place, no smeared mascara and her eyes were dry. It looked like somebody splashed some water in her face.

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She wore a pearl necklace.

and if she wore blue velvet? vh

ha ha, that was totally random-don't know the ZZ Top song, will have to go check out the lyrics. vh

Tea must have spent all her tears in the previous episodes. Don't worry, she will be at it very soon. ladfan

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Posted by: Rhonda
Date posted: Mon Oct 19 23:35:07 2009
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NuCarlotta should really be renamed. She seems more like Carlotta's younger sister who's filling in while Carlotta is away on extended vacation (visiting Antonio or preparing her bogus lawsuit against OLTL). Still, I was happy to see someone in Tea's corner. Though why she wants to salvage her 24-hour marriage to the biggest jerk in history, I'll never know.

When Layla brought up her sister, I almost felt Cris was going to say "Evangeline who?" Granted, Cris and Vangie were always a bit of a stretch, but at least Layla is exhibiting a level of classiness that seems to have escaped most of Llanview's other inhabitants (Jess/Cris/Nat, Cris/Jess/Antonio, Bo/Nora/Clint, Joey/Kelly/Kevin, Kelly/Kevin/Blair, Clint/Viki/Ben -- who am I missing?)

Blair's decision to keep Tea's secret? Bad move. Now she's just as guilty as withholding vital info from Todd as Tea.

I've never been all that keen on Jared, but Brody's pile-on approach is really bothering me. A lot of people gave Brody a second chance when things looked bad (including the man he shot), so show some compassion and some healthy skepticism. I get that he's protective of Jess, but still. I expect more from Brody.

They hinted around today that Ross knows Todd is the bio-dad, but he's not willing to tell his brother -- why? I am liking Elijah more and more. I'm hoping Tea won't have any of Layla's scruples when it comes to brother-hopping. ABT -- Anyone But Todd!

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I agree about Brody. Everyone gave him a second chance and overlooked his crimes once he hooked up with Jessica, but now he's jumping at the chance to condemn Jared. I have never cared much for Jared (mostly because of the actor), but I'm hoping he is found to be innocent in all of this and everyone has to eat their words.

I hope Layla hold out for a while before giving in. CarNotta should have been the younger sister. Yes, Blair is guilty, but this secret still lies squarely on Tea. It is hers to tell. Brody's attitude towards Jared has been bugging me for a while. Brody did a lot of terrible things and he got a second chance. Now he can't show Jared some compassion? What and how much Ross knows about the kid is still a mystery. Hop on that brother Tea! ladfan

Brody was actually suffering from post traumatic stress syndrome, so there was actually a reason for his offenses. But, though I like Brody, and like him with Jessica, it just might have been the kiss of death to put him in John Mcpain's orbit. Brody sort of shined on his own and with Jess, but we all know NO ONE is permitted to outshine Mcpain! They just become his toady! A sad fate for Brody if they keep this up!//pf

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Posted by: Ice Cream Soldier
Date posted: Mon Oct 19 21:58:09 2009
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I'll admit, I like John, but it would be nice to see someone else solve a crime for a change. This storyline would be better if it was Brody doing all the heavy lifting- he's Jessica's boyfriend, he should be the one taking charge and not tagging along after McBain.

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I forgot, it was nice to finally see Clint- where has he been all these weeks? I feel it was strange that he was cut out of Matthew's storyline, he was the one who brought Greg to town in the first place, and kept demanding that Nora let him have more to do with helping his nephew. I wonder what he will think of Bo and Nora kidnapping their own son. It was totally random seeing CarNotta today. They should just give the part back to PM. And, shouldn't John have a little more doubt in the Jared investigation? Everything about it is too convenient and out in the open, he is obviously being framed.

Clint and Nora haven't spent any time together since they got married. Clint should be definitely more involved. I would like ot know his reaction to Bo/Nora's plans for Matthew. Sometimes I forget that Nora and Clint are even married. Carnotta, great name. ladfan

Clint's just been off-screen, apparently keeping busy at BE. I think Clint would openly support Nora and Bo's decision, because that's what he's been doing these past few months. However, he hasn't really been allowed his own opinion since he brought Greg to town. Back when he was trying to assert his own thoughts into the matter, both Nora and Bo reacted negatively. Several times, Bo flat out told Clint he didn't really understand (like Clint never dealt with health problems for himself or his own children), so he should butt out. What really annoys me is the exclusion of Clint. He was an element that tptb included in the beginning, and even had Nora spend several shows deciding to go through with the wedding. Ignoring him since then does a disservice to both Nora and Bo. I'm sure plenty expect her to drop Clint without a second thought once Bo confesses his interest to her. Based on excluding Clint all this time, that makes sense, but why bother with all the effort of Nora marrying Clint? Otherwise it just makes her appear selfish and callous. I hate that their marriage has been reduced to just telling us instead of showing us. Clint's left waiting because he loves Nora... but for what? eom

Actually, at this point, I don't know why Clint would love or want to be married to Nora. He has given her all the space in the world. Her disregard for Clint makes Nora look really bad. I have always thought that pairing thme was a bad idea. ladfan

Regardless, tptb paired Clint & Nora and kept them together. She reportedly loves Clint enough to marry him, and supposedly if Bo wasn't a factor, Nora would be happily married to Clint for the rest of her life (or until such time the writers give them other angst). RSW and HBS keep saying this is a story about 3 people who love each other struggling with this situation. IMO, I don't see much love from Nora or Bo towards Clint. Bo claims he doesn't want to hurt his brother, but he's being really wishy-washy about it. It's more like he and Nora don't want to be the ones actually responsible for hurting Clint, but they're okay if someone else does it (like Matthew ratting them out). Clint's still there because he's a loyal and committed guy, and Nora keeps telling him she loves him. But Clint is essentially a non-factor and he's left to struggle alone, while everyone expects Nora & Bo to automatically reunite. I don't like seeing Clint strung along and kept waiting, trying to be understanding for months, but he gets nothing out of it in the end. If tptb weren't going to give Clint a real place in this story, there were other ways to keep Bo & Nora apart until needed. eom

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Posted by: Emily
Date posted: Mon Oct 19 20:49:39 2009
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I was pleasantly surprised to see Clint today, and had to smile that he brought his rifle with him (although I noticed he left without it). However, I have to agree about John's attitude. John has his own philosophy - guilty unless grudgingly proven innocent. I had to roll my eyes when the CSU team showed up and John explained what must have happened (so it must be true) - something like Jared killed Pamela the exact same way as the previous dead guy. And how convenient that John so easily found Jared's wallet after everyone else left the lodge. Did the CSU team not do anything but bag the body?

I know it's technically the same soap day or so, but it's been at least a week or so of real time and it seems a bit silly that Viki, Charlie, and Clint are just finding out now about Jared.

Most of today's material seemed like filler. The stalker story paced along, but the rest seemed to be fluff or re-hashing plot points.

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guilty unless grudgingly proven innocent - That is the PERFECT description of John's philosophy about any accused he doesn't like or care about. ladfan

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Posted by: OBSERVER
Date posted: Mon Oct 19 19:23:27 2009
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I couldn't agree with you more Lad, in fact I'd go to STACY MARASCO for police protection before I'd go to Mc Vomit, but you have to understand the as long as long as Fornons like his precisous John Mc Bain the show's going to be about him

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Even I am sick of John's heroics and I like John. ladfan

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