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While you're busy posting conservative stupidity, don't forget the Clinton's murdered Vince Foster.
Others below have already countered this silliness, so I won't bother. Of course, I also don't expect to see any kind of a response from you.
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Posting a worn out email and disappearing is extremely weak.
This list of supposed sins pales in comparison to what GWB actually did.
He started two wars, one of which he promptly ignored in favor of the other, which was waged against a country that never attacked us and did not have weapons of mass destruction--something he could have known if he hadn't pulled weapon inspectors out of Iraq in order to begin the war. Over 4200 of our military have died and over 30,000 have been wounded in this war based on lies.
He censored the information provided by respected scientists to fit his own political agenda. James Hansen, the head of NASA's top institute studying climate change and one of the world's leading researchers on global warming, said, "I find a willingness to listen only to those portions of scientific results that fit predetermined inflexible positions. This, I believe, is a recipe for environmental disaster."
Bush gutted environmental laws in order to protect the profits of polluters. Examples: Removed key sections of the Clean Water and Clean Air acts, laws which have usually had bipartisan support. Crippled the Superfund program, which works to clean up millions of pounds of toxic industrial waste (arsenic, lead, mercury, vinyl chloride) in over 1,000 neighborhoods in 48 states Tried to cut the EPA's enforcement division to its lowest level on record; fines for environmental violations dropped by nearly two thirds in the administration's first two years, and criminal prosecutions dropped by nearly one third as the Bush administration refused to pursue blatant cases of corporate pollution Became the first administration not to voluntarily add a single species to the endangered species list. Opened millions of acres of wilderness to logging, mining, and oil and gas drilling.
Turned the record-breaking surplus left to him by President Clinton into a record-breaking deficit.
Left his successor the worst economy since the great depression.
Authorized the torture of prisoners of war in violation of domestic and international law. Authorized unwarranted wiretapping in violation of the Constitution.
And furthermore, despite his mantra, he did not keep us safe. Let me repeat that. He did not keep us safe. 9/11 happened on his watch. He ignored warnings from counter-terrorism official Richard Clarke (a registered Republican, by the way) that Al Quaeda posed a greater threat to the country than did Iraq, he ignored a memo entitled "Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S.,", and when the attacks occurred, he sat with that stunned hamster look on his face while he continued to read "My Pet Goat" to schoolchildren and waited for someone to tell him what to do.
What a leader. And you're fretting because Obama took his wife on a date? How much money did it cost for Bush to fly to Crawford, TX, all the time, as he took more vacation days than any previous president?
Is Obama a perfect president? Of course not. No president is. But bear in mind that much of what has occupied Obama's time and effort is simply cleaning up the BIG FAT STINKING MESS left to him by Bush. The one thing Bush has always been good at is creating problems that have no good solution. Call me a Bush hater if you wish, but I think there are many good reasons to hate the man and what he has done.
It's almost as if Bush was determined to be known as the worst president we've ever had. If that's the case--Mission Accomplished.
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> If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter
> installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have
> laughed and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own and is
> really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?
Obama isn't the first President to use a teleprompter. That would be Ronald Reagan. The teleprompter was also his preferred form of reference for his speeches. George W. Bush liked index cards. So what? Either way, it's reading from notes. Every President does it. See how stupid this brilliant "gotcha" point is?
> If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura
> Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?
Why not? We all had to approve when he traveled back and forth on Air Force One to Crawford - with a full security complement in place every time - for more vacation days than any other President in recent memory.
> If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock
> by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?
Probably not. Especially if GM stock had been part of his brilliant plan to privatize Social Security. What a raging success THAT would have been for America's retirees, in view of the havoc his administration rained down on our economy.
> If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England
> an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you
> have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky?
Yes. But that's not what was on the iPod Obama gave Queen Elizabeth. In addition to American classic musical theater music, there was video footage of her 2007 visit to the U.S. You know... the last visit she made while Bush was in office. Oh, there was also a rare songbook signed by composer Richard Rodgers. In return, Queen Elizabeth presented the Obamas with a silver-framed photograph of herself and Prince Philip.
> If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi
> Arabia , would you have approved?
Sure, it was protocol. Just like when President Bush was photographed kissing and holding hands with him. It's correct to show deference to foreign royalty, just like it's correct to honor a foreign visitor's customs.
> If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with
> people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes,
> would you have approved?
"FILLED"? Give us a break.
> If George W. Bush had created the position of 32 Czars who report
> directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate
> on much of what is happening in America, would you have approved.
First of all, there are no such positions as "Czars." These people are special advisers, envoys, directors, etc. and "Czar" is an appellation given to them by the media. Of Obama's 32 "Czars," only eight are Obama-appointed, unconfirmed, brand new czars. Bush, by the way, had 35 "Czar" positions in his administration. That's right - 35. Again, the majority of these positions were not created by him.
> If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major
> corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so,
> would you have approved?
Maybe he should have. Like his buddy Ken Lay of Enron, for example. But then, Enron wasn't "owned" by the American taxpayers.
> If George W Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken
> more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?
But George W Bush DID double the national debt, and he STILL left us with a historic deficit. We got nothing for it, either.... except for thousands of dead American soldiers, a military force in tatters, approximately a million dead Iraqi civilians (by some reliable estimates) and an economy in ruins. Besides, the statement "which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate" is marginally truthful at best. The only accurate measure of the national debt is its relationship to GDP, considering the changing value of our currency. This relationship was far worse following WWII than it is now, or will be according to Obama's projections.
So, while I'm sure the OP thought this was a very clever anti-Obama salvo to post here, for the most part it's ignorant rubbish. Please don't be taken in by something so transparently misleading. Obama isn't perfect; no one is. Bush was record-breakingly imperfect. The over-riding theme of that piece seems to be to point out how unfairly Bush was judged, while Obama gets a free pass. Nonsense. Bush got a free pass from the American media and electorate for YEARS.
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This looks to me like something cut and pasted from an email the OP got. I think it is ridiculous to ciriticize our President for every picky little thing. True, there are some things I don't like that have been done (like taking over GM), but I can certainly see that President Obama inherited the financial mess and whatever he did would be subject to criticism. One thing I do think he is doing well, is negotiating with those who oppose us around the world. This, IMO is a much better tactic than taking a hawk like position. I'm tired of us being seen as bullies around the world.
We had an election. I voted for JOhn McCain, but President Obama won. I think we need to support him now.
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