Topic: A little more info about the Noah SPOILER....you're gonna ROLL YOUR EYES!
Topic Posted by: Linny
Date Posted: Mon Nov 16 15:04:32 2009
Additional Comments:
Apparently, Lily and Damian adopt Noah because there is no one who can consent to the life saving surgery that he needs after the accident. So they make things even stranger than they already are by adopting Noah so that they can give parental consent to the surgery/treatment. First, WTH did adoption happen so fast? If it's to get life-saving surgery, I'm guessing that the kid needs it in a matter of hours, not days or weeks. Second...EWWWWWW! It sounds pretty practical but geeze, now Noah is dating his brother? Good grief....just NO! Finally, where can they take this storyline after all is said and done? Are they going to drop it like they did Derrick and Jade? Is Noah going to become a rival for Lily and/or Damian's parental affections?
On a second...EWWWWW Note....apparently Damian boinks Meg to shut her up. WTH? This is nasty and I am finally starting to dislike Damian...congratulations writers! So now Damain is a manwhore who cheats on the "love of his life" to shut up a shrew like Meg? Can they make this man any more despicable? I know many folks out there hate this character but the writers are really on board w/r/t turning slanting the Team Linden vs. Team Dily (sorry I couldn't help it) into an easy exercise with this move. Please don't turn Meg into a victim in this storyline. One ray of hope is a spoiler that indicated that Meg learns that Damian is not to be "messed with".
Posted by: Brhannada^sArmour Date posted: Tue Nov 17 2:15:06 2009
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Why do the writers insist on telling stories about inequality that don't make sense for Luke/Noah? A green card marriage for someone they barely knew. DADT after Noah gave up Northwestern to dodge military service. Housing discrimination for an apartment we've never seen. And now we're supposed to find it unfair that Luke isn't considered Noah's next-of-kin just because they live together and say, ''You're my family.'' Did I miss their commitment ceremony? Illinois doesn't recognize any common law relationships, so this isn't discrimination (at this stage of the relationship).
Moving on to Oakdale Memorial's policy - hospitals have the right to perform emergency procedures with presumed consent, without waiting for some estranged relative to fly in from Tennessee! Couldn't Luke or his parents get a court order stating that Noah has no next-of-kin in light of one parent murdering the other, allowing the doctors to use their judgement? Even if we totally suspend disbelief and accept that Ruth Mason is Noah's only hope, how can Damian possibly think that adoption is faster than sending a jet to Memphis and back? Wouldn't Noah have to consent to the adoption? If he wakes up for that, why can't he consent to his own surgery? If they need family for Noah, why not just call his ex-wife Ameera? The marriage may be annulled (has it ever been said?) but it wouldn't hurt to have her support.
Posted by: Midwest Meredith Date posted: Mon Nov 16 23:30:28 2009
Message: I was kind of sitting there wondering about this entire adoption/surgery scenario. .. it does seem really stupid. Legal minds out there answer me this one... if someone comes into the ER in very critical condition and they need a life saving surgery and they cannot contact any family members... do they just allow that patient to die? Is there some kind of law that says Doctors have a judgment call and can provide whatever service they believe will help the patient if next to kin cannot be contacted? I would think there are laws like that.. I mean many people have no family or perhaps they are traveling and have no contact numbers.. certainly I would think in extreme cases the Physicians have the power to do what they deem necessary to save the patient. Am I wrong on this one?
Posted by: soul Date posted: Mon Nov 16 20:27:47 2009
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"Meg learns that Damian is not to be "messed with"."
if looks could kill Meg would be a goner. Damien officialy hates that witch. :)
Posted by: twb6yz Date posted: Mon Nov 16 18:03:16 2009
Message: I was happy to see Holden tell Luke he'd talk to Bob.
While this whole discussion was going on I had been wondering about having Lucinda, a Board Member, appeal to Bob. That makes much more sense then pursing this silly plot point.
Posted by: Katnim Date posted: Mon Nov 16 16:56:07 2009
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Linny on of the reasons I don't bother to watch the Damian/Lily/Holden storyline, despite the fact that I am a huge Paolo Seganti fan, is because the IIC seem hell-bent on destroying the Damian character.
Damian, it seems never spent any time with another woman, other than Lily, but now we have him boinking a woman he actually despises just to shut her up IMO just to show what a wonderful character St. Holdumb of Pereptual Boredom is.
Posted by: Ty34 Date posted: Mon Nov 16 16:03:52 2009
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Seems rather far-fetched LOL! ... But maybe this is ATWT's idea of same-sex marriage, because some scholars believe that the religious rite known as Adelphopoiesis - translated to mean ''the making of brothers'' - was the Medieval Church's way of blessing same-sex couples. In France, there was the civil contract of 'affrèrement' - basically meaning ''brotherment.''
What's old is new again .. only on As the World Turns .. lol!
Posted by: Johnny Date posted: Mon Nov 16 16:01:42 2009
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Actually, Dusty was pretty close to Noah at one time. Why would you need parental consent for someone who is over 18? This is just POOR AND SLOPPY WRITING.... AND LAZY.
Luke and Noah is no worse than Parker and Liberty....
Posted by: walter curtin Date posted: Mon Nov 16 15:53:19 2009
Message: Ot sort of: When the Eagles song ''take it easy'' first came out, we thought the lyrics were ''lookin for a lover who won't blow my brother''. Actually it was ''cover.'' But maybe these were the words after all.
Posted by: gallyn Date posted: Mon Nov 16 15:41:00 2009
Message: This is so ridiculous. Noah needs LIFESAVING surgery. He doesn't need to give his consent---that's implied.
But it's nice to know TIIC are as stupid about medical procedures as legal ones. I'll never get over victims always NEEDING to press charges in cases of attempted murder now.
Posted by: Allison Date posted: Mon Nov 16 15:35:23 2009
Message: Crazy stuff. I do appreciate their bringing up the fact that gay partners can't make medical decisions for one another - a deeply unfair consequence of not allowing same sex marriage - but the idea that hospitals can't perform medically necessary surgeries on unconscious patients without family consent is just plain wrong. And the idea that it would be easier to arrange the adoption of an adult man without out his consent than to perform emergency surgery on him is just plain nuts. Sometimes it really does seem as though they just like to mess with us.
Posted by: katiesbeach Date posted: Mon Nov 16 15:23:11 2009
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Yeah, this is really stretching things. To think that a couple could go through an adoption process in a matter of a day?
And correct me if I'm wrong, but Noah is of legal adult age. He shouldn't need someone to approve his surgery. AND, I wouldn't think that a legal adult person could just get adopted by anyone just cause they want to.
What if you or I went to sleep over night and woke up and found out that one of the neigbors had just 'decided' to adopt us? It's so unbelivalbly crazy
