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Topic: Noelle Beck is beautiful and likeable but she is not Lily


Topic Posted by: walter curtin
Date Posted: Sat Aug 23 2:21:05 2008
Additional Comments: The ratings drop reflects this too. The whole thing is so weird. It's like Holden knows it too. He holds her at arm's length. She should have been a different character. She seems like one.



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Posted by: soapfan
Date posted: Sun Aug 24 16:23:29 2008
Message:

It all depends on the kind of Lily you like:

You can have a hot, sophisticated, MILF Lily or a darb, matornly Lily with mindling looks.

If they hook this Lily up with Dusty it would be realistic- the last time I had a hard time understanding what Dusty saw in this boring, barely cute let alone hot Lily.


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Posted by: Roxie
Date posted: Sat Aug 23 21:47:23 2008
Message:
I watched Martha since she was a kid in this role and nobody else will ever be Lily to me. NB is an OK actor, she can't help it. Just the way it is after 20+ years. But I doubt seriously that it has a thing to do with the ratings.

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Posted by: Frank Wendell
Date posted: Sat Aug 23 20:52:48 2008
Message:
I couldn't agree more. The problem is that NB has ZERO chemistry with the people who are supposed to be important to her, like Holden and (especially) Lucinda. I just kept thinking how more powerful the showdown between Carly and Lily would have been if Martha was still in the role.

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Posted by: claire
Date posted: Sat Aug 23 14:57:49 2008
Message:
she's become Lily for me! Usually I am slow to accept a recast, but not in this case. I think she's great. Someone is not truly a fan of the show if they stop watching because one of the actors left. Well, at least I would not stop watching if anyone left.

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  • ITA, claire..NB has a flair MB never had....MB was snobby enough to be Lily, but always seemed frumpy to me...NB displays a confidence MB never exhibited. **
  • I still miss Martha, but think NB is wonderful in the role of Lily. NB walked right into the role and IMO with an nonchalant flair, has made the part her own.
  • I loved MB as Lily she played the part well but towards the end there was no fight or emotion left. The new Lily I have accepted this is the way Martha should have been playing Lily.

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    Posted by: Lulu
    Date posted: Sat Aug 23 7:57:19 2008
    Message:
    I think it probably did effect the ratings to an extent, because Lilden fans just can't make the investment in them without Martha in the role.  They did the recast for they could do the Holden and Carly have an affair story which hasn't worked either.  They should have just had Lily missing and presumed dead.  That would have generated some powerful scenes and Holden and Carly could have hooked up anyway with Lily's memory and Carly's linger feelings for Jack between them.  If they did a recast it should have been much farther in the future.

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    Posted by: dolphina
    Date posted: Sat Aug 23 7:35:42 2008
    Message:

    I agree that she is just not Lily, and I miss Martha Byrne in the role.  However, I'm not so sure that has anything to do with the ratings.  I doubt that many Neilson family viewers dropped the show simply because one actor left the cast.

     

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  • I have not watched ATWT in a long time nor have I been reading the message board, what happened to Martha Byrne (Lily). Is she off of the show for good. Thanks!
  • The story is that they wouldn't meet her relatively modest demands in contract negotiations, so she left. And, apparently they had a casting call out for her part even before the announcement was made that she was leaving. It doesn't sound very nice at all, but I would bet none of the actors are getting what they want these days. eom/D
  • Thanks for the information. Although I have not been watching it is strange not to see Martha Byrne as Lily. I thought she played the part well.

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