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Topic Posted by: Vivian
Date Posted: Thu Sep 4 19:03:31 2008
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On Obama, Earmarks, Palin Less Than Honest

Palin's RNC Speech Bent the Truth on Her Record and on the Opposition

By RUSSELL GOLDMAN
Sept. 4, 2008

In a rousing speech at last night's Republican National Convention, vice presidential hopeful Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, touted her record, attacked the opposition, and in some cases bent the facts.

 

Speaking last night at the RNC in St. Paul, vice-presidential pick Gov. Sarah Palin stretched the truth when it came to Barrack Obama and her support of earmarks.

(Donna Svennevik/ABC )
 

•PALIN: "[Obama] is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting, and never use the word 'victory' except when he's talking about his own campaign."

FACT: On July 15, in a speech in Washington, D.C., Obama twice used the word "victory" in reference to Iraq.

"In fact," he said, "true success in Iraq -- victory in Iraq -- will not take place in a surrender ceremony where an enemy lays down their arms. . . I want Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future, and to reach the political accommodation necessary for long-term stability. That's victory. That's success. That's what's best for Iraq, that's what's best for America, and that's why I will end this war as President.

A week later in Berlin, Germany on July 23, Obama used the word "victory" three times to describe Allied successes during World War II. And in a June speech about the prospect of universal healthcare, he said Sen. Hillary Clinton "will be central to that victory."

•PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform -- not even in the state senate." Top of Form

FACT: The meaning of "major" is open to debate, but Obama worked with Republicans, including Sen. Richard Luger of Indiana, to pass legislation that would expand efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. While a state senator in Illinois, he sponsored two contentious bills, one that studied racial profiling by police and another that ordered interrogations in potential death penalty cases to be recorded.

•PALIN: "I fought to bring about the largest private-sector infrastructure project in North American history. And when that deal was struck, we began a nearly $40 billion natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence. That pipeline, when the last section is laid and its valves are opened, will lead America one step farther away from dependence on dangerous foreign powers that do not have our interests at heart."

 

FACT: That infrastructure project has not yet been approved by Federal regulators. The proposed pipeline would ship natural gas from the Alaska's North Slope to homes and businesses across the U.S. In June, the Alaskan legislature, with Palin's prodding, agreed to pay Canadian energy company TransCanada $500 million as an incentive to build the pipeline.

 

•PALIN: "And I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending: nearly half a billion dollars in vetoes. I suspended the state fuel tax, and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks, but no thanks,' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

 

 

FACT: While serving as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin hired Steven Silver, a former chief of staff for Sen. Ted Stevens, to lobby Congress for earmarks. Wasilla received around $27 million in federal money, about as much as Boise, Idaho. Boise has a population of 200,000 people, compared to Wasilla's 10,000. Earmarked funds went to sewage improvements and improving roads connecting the town to a local ski resort.

 

As for the "Bridge to Nowhere," Palin initially supported using federal funds to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to Gravina Island, which has 50 residents and a small airport. It was not until the plan was ridiculed that she withdrew her support. Critics contend she still supports using federal money to build a 3.4 mile "road to nowhere" on the island for $26 million -- from the funds for the bridge.

 

•PALIN: While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for. That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay. I also drive myself to work.

 

FACT: Soon after entering office, Palin put the state-owned Westwind II jet that her predecessor Frank Murkowski's purchased amid much criticism. When the deal fell through with the sole eBay bidder, the plane was sold offline.

Alaskan businessman Larry Reynolds paid $2.1 for the jet after learning about it from Republican John L. Harris, speaker of the Alaskan House of Representatives.

Palin drives herself to work. In July, her Chevy Suburban was rear-ended while driving from Wasilla to her office in downtown Anchorage.

 

 





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Posted by: Vivian
Date posted: Fri Sep 5 17:20:49 2008
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One of McCain’s spokespersons said it had been written for her and then they spent a half day on Wednesday, going over and over it with her.  Here from Newsweek, is how Obama does his speeches:

 

Jon Favreau has the worst and the best job in political speechwriting. His boss is a best-selling author who doesn't really need his help, having written the 2004 speech that catapulted him onto the national stage. At the same time, the same boss also happens to be capable of delivering a speech in ways that can give his audience the goosebumps.

But Barack Obama is more than a little busy campaigning across Iowa and New Hampshire right now. So it was Favreau who led the team that wrote Obama's victory speech in Des Moines last week—a moment that prompted the TV pundits to drop months of skepticism about Obama's candidacy to make breathless comparisons with the Kennedy era.

-snipped-

The pitch worked. Favreau and Obama rapidly found a relatively direct way to work with each other. "What I do is to sit with him for half an hour," Favreau explains. "He talks and I type everything he says. I reshape it, I write. He writes, he reshapes it. That's how we get a finished product.

"It's a great way to write speeches. A lot of times, you write something, you hand it in, it gets hacked by advisers, it gets to the candidate and then it gets sent back to you. This is a much more intimate way to work."

Some speeches are much more the product of the candidate himself. Obama e-mailed Favreau his draft of his announcement speech in Springfield, Ill., at 4 a.m. on the morning of the campaign launch last February.

Now Favreau has his own team: Adam Frankel, a 26-year-old who worked with Ted Sorensen on his memoirs, and Ben Rhodes, a 30-year-old who worked with Lee Hamilton on the 9/11 commission's report.

MUCH MORE AT LINK

http://www.newsweek.com/id/84756

 


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Posted by: King of Pain
Date posted: Fri Sep 5 13:58:22 2008
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Her "speech" was written by one of Bush's main speech writers.

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  • As one of the pundits pointed out Bush's speeches would have been good too if he had 3 days practicing with help from professionals .. /Fashionista
  • The funny thing is, they wrote all those lies for her to tell. She probably didn’t even know what she was talking about half the time, except the lies that she told about herself. Fash, I think even if they spent days preparing Bush, he still wouldn’t know how to pronounce some words. He’d probably lose his place on the teleprompter and be just as inept as he always is. / Vivian

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    Posted by: Linda
    Date posted: Fri Sep 5 13:04:31 2008
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    My computer has been down and I haven't been able to respond to anything on this board so I will put a few things in here.

    What I heard about Sarah Palin's speech was that she only wrote the opening part where she talked about herself. This speech has been written weeks ago before John McCain ever decided on who he was going to pick for a running mate. If he had picked Romney, for instance, or Pawlenty, they would have been giving this same speech just customized to reflect their own biography. She did deliver it well, though.

    A couple of things I wanted to mention (and I don't know if they have been already mentioned in topics above) is that I think one good reason Obama did not take Hillary is, would you want a former President as the spouse of your running mate telling you what to do all the time? I think if Hillary wasn't married to Bill, he would have picked her. JMO.

    The other thing I would like to know is if Obama would have picked Hillary, would McCain have picked Palin anyway? What would be wrong with that if Sarah Palin's credentials are so good? That's what it should be about, not gender. It would have been interesting to see two candidates both with female running mates, not this since you didn't pick one, I will, kind of thing. Hopefully, that's not what it is as the media is making it out to be and she would have been picked either way. As they say, "It's all politcs", unfortunately.

    I am looking forward to the debates. That's when all the candidates stand out better and you can find out what they will do, not what their opponent will or will not do. All I keep asking of both candidates is, "But how are you going to do it?", whatever the issue is. Neither one will say. I hope we get more information in the debates.

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  • I doubt very much if McCain would have picked her if Obama had picked Hillary. On the morning talk shows the people who have talked to McCain’s advisors said that he really wanted Lieberman clear up until the very last minute. But there was so much outrage that he had to change his plan. So he picked Palin to try to get some of Hillary’s voters. There will be some that will cross over to her, but they have to be people who only want a woman and don’t care anything about the issues. Real smart. I have no idea what they think that will get them. / Vivian
  • That's what I heard, too, Vivian. What I'm saying is that if her credentials are so good, it shouldn't matter whether Obama took Hillary or not. It shouldn't be about the fact that Hillary wasn't picked so they are trying to get the women. It should be about the fact that the person is a good candidate no matter what gender they are. That's why I said, it's all politics because it's just how you play the game. If these politicians really cared about the people, then they wouldn't play these games and go for the best person possible. I don't think Sarah is a substitute for Hillary either other than being a woman. They are so different on their views. I agree that they will only get the Hillary woman's vote who wants to get a woman in no matter what her views are. Just to make history. That's kind of sad. ~ eom. Linda

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