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Topic: texting, IMing, e-mail


Topic Posted by: Sue
Date Posted: Mon May 12 10:08:12 2008
Additional Comments: Does anyone here monitor their kids texting, IMing or e-mails? I have and I have decided to eliminate this form of communicating. There have been things typed that I don't think would have been said. Inappropriate things. I think the technology has eliminated the natural barriers people have like shyness, and it's not good - especially for teens. Things will naturally happen at their own rate. This type of bold communication which can also be shared with unintended recipients doesn't seem like a good thing to me - as a parent.



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Posted by: Grandma b@s
Date posted: Tue May 13 2:27:31 2008
Message:
Sue, Check into a internet monitoring software http://www.safecomputerkids.com/ .  We did use them for our kids.  They KNEW I snooped and they knew I knew how to find history they tried to hide.  That's just part of the privilege of having a computer and/or getting to use the internet.  These programs run in the background and most of the time the kids don't even know they are there.  With these programs you can go in and find out what the kids are doing online (whether they delete them or not)..  I didn't check often but the kids never knew when I was going to check.  If I did, and there was something I didn't think they should be saying, I would confront them.  Yeah, they would be upset that I snooped, but I'd discuss it with them. 
 
Just chatting, cussing, etc, I'd just let that go.  We used to pass NOTES when I was in school and so that 'outsiders' wouldn't know what we were talking about, we talked in a code that we made up.  People had 'NICKNAMES'.  We never signed out REAL names, we would use names that not all that different than screen names.  As for the CONSTANT COMMUNICATION, I remember sitting for HOURS on the phone, often not saying anything.  And I know that even when we were together, we'd say things that our parents never knew about.  And realistically, I doubt that anything they are saying when they are texting, IMing, etc.. is not all that different than stuff they would say in person anyway. 
 
My suggestion is tell your daughter you snooped, let her know that you check up on her.  Limit her texting (there are ways to do that with most cell phone companies as well).  If she knows you are checking on her and if she even thinks you might be monitoring her, she may delete emails for a while but she'll get tired of deleting or forget.   (especially if you do get one of the net monitoring programs). 
 
Oh, I'm rambling a bit.  I hope you understand what I'm getting at.  Don't feel bad for snooping, it's your JOB.  But unless her emails/texts/IMs are dangerous in some way, just let it go. 

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  • Thanks for your response. I think the monitoring software is a good idea. My husband thinks it will harm the computer. I will research the options. My issue is that the things that have been typed between this boy and my daughter wouldn't have been said face to face. Shouldn't have been said. I guess it's not bad that they know someone might check on what they do on the computer. Thanks again. Sue

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    Posted by: Shea
    Date posted: Mon May 12 20:24:08 2008
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    Limit, but do not forbid.  Why so extreme?  I'm old enough to be a grandma, but I remember being a kid, and it was not easy.   I understand your concerns.  Discuss them with her.  Cyber-bullying is a real and large problem, and girls are very very good at this type of behavior.  She is not going to like that you snooped.  Try to get past that and open up the lines of communication about what is appropriate to you and what is not and find out what she is thinking and feeling.   Make it plain you want what is best for her.  But don't alienate her completely from technology.  It is a valuable social and educational tool.  Help teach her to use it correctly. 

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  • How do I limit? I've set guidelines that she obviously won't follow. I haven't talked with her yet. I don't know if I want to blow my cover and then have NO access to what she's doing. She keeps things private. She's boy crazy and knows I wouldn't approve of her conversations. Thanks for the input. I seriously need it. I have no idea what I'm doing. Sue
  • Maybe you could find some way to broach the subject in a round about way? There's been an awful lot written about teens and IMing/texting/blogging, etc. If you could maybe refer to all that has been written and perhaps let her know that you are worried. Find out how much she actually KNOWS about whether what she's texting is being passed around and what stuff like this can lead to, etc. Gossip and rumors are such a big PITA at this age. I think 60 Minutes did a segment on the subject not too long ago, for example. Hunt up some backup and let her know how chancey this stuff can be. Try to relate it to things that have happened in your own teen years, etc. I just know that forbidding it ALL is not gonna stop her. It will just make her sneaky about it. Good luck. // Shea

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    Posted by: starfish
    Date posted: Mon May 12 15:36:48 2008
    Message:
    Maybe this could be a compromise: nix the texting and IM which, as you pointed out, is overdone and intrudes on other areas of life. Allow her to continue with email (it could help with developing writing and keyboarding skills), but limit the amount of time she spends on the computer.

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  • That might be a good idea. It seems the instant communication gets more out of hand than the e-mails. I haven't done anything yet because I just don't feel like I have the right answer to this problem. Sue

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    Posted by: ingyandbert
    Date posted: Mon May 12 12:13:05 2008
    Message:

    IMO, taking away those forms of communication althogether is only going to backfire on you by making you look unreasonable and stirring resentment.  The better approach might be to treat it as a privilege that can be earned back through proper behavior.  Give the kid something to work toward and learn to use it responsibly. 

    Don't build a wall where you need a bridge.

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  • I know. I actually am torn. I want her to be happy. I want her to have something to strive for. But, I have to tell her I was snooping. That's not going to go over well. If I give it back to her, she'll only be more careful to delete every little trace of inappropriate usage. WHAT SHOULD I DO? Sue
  • Learn to trust. Make your point by taking away the privilege, allow her to earn it back, and then trust her enough not to snoop again unless you have a very strong reason. You can't control everything your child does but you can try to teach her a life lesson by modeling the same behavior you want to see in her. By showing your trust in her, maybe she will decide it's worth keeping. ~i&b
  • Do I blow my cover? I fear I won't have access to her IM's anymore because she'll delete the log. Sue

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    Posted by: DixuhsBaybuh
    Date posted: Mon May 12 11:58:09 2008
    Message:

    Sounds good to me, let them learn how to talk. IM's and texts are brainless jibber jabber. Banning e-mail altogether probably is not a great idea because writing a good letter is a valuable skill. Eventually they may do that. I don't have kids but I remember being one. We wrote letters and notes, e-mail just sends it cleaner and faster.

    Hopefully in college they still teach how to calculate, etc.. without a computer as well as with one. I know I did at Ga. Tech, and we had access to leading edge technology but we still did most of it by hand, pencil, and brain.

     

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  • The continual texting is an annoyance to me. We're in the car. She's texting. We're out having dinner, she's texting. WHY must they have constant communication? You know it's nothing important. Sue
  • It's not about the subject of the conversation, it's about friends maintaining that close connection between them. To your daughter, that closeness is VERY important. ~i&b

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    Posted by: Jason Robert
    Date posted: Mon May 12 10:21:34 2008
    Message:
    Wow. This is just a little extreme reaction, perhaps.

    I'd be concerned with limiting a teen's access to new technology for several reasons -

    1. It's hard to be a teenager already. Moving them back to the stone ages in terms of technology is only going to make it more difficult.

    2. They may be required to use email for classes.

    3. You're hurting their ability and knowledge base for when they get to college. They have to be up on all of these thing if they want to succeed.

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  • I hear you, but there isn't much to know about texting and IMing, is there? E-mail is pretty simple too. I'm not happy about this but I don't know what else to do. Sue

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