The first choice when I googled sexual predator said:

''Definition
In the broad sense of the word, sexual predators are people who commit sexual crimes. The term "predator," however, usually indicates a repeat offender who enjoys the feeling of "hunting down" his prey. Many sexual predators attack only a particular type of victim, such as children of a certain age, sex or race. Sexual predators are usually friendly, self-assured individuals who target their victims carefully, rather than choosing at random.''

In order to be a sexual predator, you do not have to kidnap/rapes/murders someone. Even IF Amanda is as you say, ''mentally challenged'', then David's sexual activities with Amanda are even more reprehensible, and fit even more closely the definition of a sexual predator.

The bottom line is that your favorite character has been written into the pure villain corner on AMC, and is indeed, a creepy, freaky, sexual predator!!

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I enjoy watching VI play David as much as I'm rooting for Amanda and Jake to rise above everything he's done and to be the biological parents of both Trevor and the new baby. That said it's almost skeevy each time he tries to taunt Jake knowing what transpired between he and Amanda. I hope Amanda comes clean so, if I'm right, once those babies are theirs and they get their life back he has nothing to hold over her head. The writers have really done a lot of characters dirty of late. Dave has always been dark but this is getting to be too much and for what? Is he that hard up that this is the only way he can get a woman? She hates him but I guess he has a plan and will renege on the deal. Not attractive but I still want to love to hate David for VI's sake. eom/WE

Rape isn't about sex or lust or love, as we all learned in Psychology 101. Rape is all about power and control. So, by the PSYCHOLOGICAL definition of rape, David is a rapist. He has raped Amanda and the Martins and the Chandlers and anyone else that he wants to overcome, defeat and hurt. No, he doesn't love Amanda or even especially desire her. He DOES want to beat and humiliate her, as payback for what she and Jake did to him. There's a reason why we use the term *scr*w job*, ya know! Understatement

I don't think David is a sexual predator...sex is just one tool in his toolbox...so to speak no pun intended. This happened to be the tool that worked for this particular caper. Sometimes it's pills, sometimes it's anger and rage, sometimes it's blinky-eyed cuteness. David uses whatever will get him to what it is he wants. So that's a manipulator and in this case he's also left with power and control...the secret, the promise to keep it, etc. If he could have gotten what he wanted...be it Martin revenge or whatever...using something like booze alone-nothing more...he'd have gotten Amanda drunk. If he can get what he wants using...I don't know...a display of his piano virtuosity...he'd have rented Carnegie Hall and put on a concert. That's just my opinion. SORAS

WE.....I also enjoy watching VI play David the same way I enjoy watching Roscoe Born play the contemptible Mitch Laurence on OLTL. They are both good actors, who play VERY skeevy characters. However, appreciating VI's acting is one thing, and not apprecitating the character's actions are another!! In my opinion, Dr. David is no longer a run-of-the-mill villain......he is firmly in the Billy Clyde Tuggle villain slot!!eom/Tex

Oh no...not even close to Billy Clyde and his Persuadiator...no---that guy was physically violent...I don't mean sexually physically...I mean he beat people, etc...he was out to do body-damage physical violence and yes I know rape (and David raped nobody) is a physically violent act but I'm talking Billy Clyde enjoyed being able to beat people to a pulp and do body damage to them...and Billy Clyde had NO redeeming factors...at least David truly is a good father to Trevor (so far) although he really hasn't paid a lot of attention to Marissa....and he's a world famous, talented cardiologist who has never refused to operate on the friends and family of people who have been his enemy and make no bones about it...so he is a gifted surgeon who does try to heal people. And look at all the ladies thought to be dead whom he brought back to life..LOL...and there's someone else out there now...so....he's no Billy Clyde...Billy Clyde would let the ladies die, rape them post mortem, and steal their pocketbooks and never look back. SORAS

I believe that David does the same sort of damage to people that Billy Clyde did. Just as Billy Clyde was evil because he enjoyed physically beating people, David is evil because of the way he enjoys drugging and manipulating people.....and now we see him using sex as a way to punish/degrade. For me, they are opposite sides of the same evil coin. For ME, David is now just as over the top evil as Billy Clyde......stuck in the corner of pure villain of Pine Valley for the rest of his time there!!eom/Tex

You have got to be kidding! David is an angel compared to Billy Clyde, David did not kidnap anyone, did not beat, rape or force Amanda to do anything sexual, she accepted his offer and obviously didn't fight him off. All she had to do was say no. If she or any woman had said no to Billy Clyde he would have knocked them unconscious and hide them away somewhere to torture them. David would never physically or sexual abuse any woman./goldie

Ah.........how soon you forget!! Since he has been back, David has manhandled Krystal many times, and even more recently, he held a gun to Liza's throat!!! David used sex to degrade and humilate Amanda, as a way to punish Jake. As for whether or not he would kidnap anyone, we will soon see if Greenlee is being held against her will or not. If she doesn't want to be there, then David will have kidnapped her!! The David that once was, is no more. THIS David is capable of everything Billy Clyde was!! David is now a stone cold villain!! It is what it is.....eom/Tex

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Posted by: mary
Date posted: Tue Nov 17 22:00:53 2009
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David may not be a "sexual predator" is real life, but in soap land he is a creepy sexual predator. He always looked sleazy in by book. Remember he was introduced as a crook stalking Allie.

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Mary there is no David in real life...I'm not sure what you're saying. Yes David has always been a dark character...sleazy...at times...not always. Vincent Irizarry is a wonderfully kind, sweet, giving man from everything I've seen, read, and heard...he devtoes a lot of time to charity work and he DOES the work ..he's hands on not just a spokesperson...and he's a devoted family man...he's all about his family. But in a good way...not like David..or Adam...can be about their families. SORAS

OK no one is talking about VA. If this was reality, David did nothing illegal. However, in soapland I consider him a sexual predator. I think the label is fitting under pinevalley standards. I don't know how you interpret that to mean VA.

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Posted by: digit
Date posted: Tue Nov 17 21:39:46 2009
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I think the writers want us not to love David too much. Remember many years ago when he date raped Erica when she was addicted to her pain killers? If David wants it he should get it, that's my humble and somewhat hormonal opinion. He is far too cool to be cast as this desparate man and my guess is that he is fulfilling some sort of sadistic fantasy of the writers.

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Well Amanda and KWAK both easily fell into his bed last year; Nurse Gail would gladly have fallen into his bed..or car backseat...or under his desk, etc., etc. Okay Nurse Gail and I have a lot in common! LOTS of PV men are going through abstinent not by choice spells....Tad..David...now Jake is being forced into that...Jesse I'm sure isn't gettin' any from Angie about now! LOL...Adam seems to be doing the best! There are just no female characters on the horizon to hook up with these guys in a normal fashion...as for David...except for Liza...there's nobody out there right now that we know...he's attracted to and intrigued by Liza and if/when they hook up I think it could be quite something! But who's to say...Liza is pretty good at resisting him. He's not pushy with Liza...he's ardent...but he doesn't force himself. SORAS

Liza is resisting him because she is a mature, intelligent woman, at this point the only one in PV. Liza is on David's level of intelligence and if she ever gives in they will be a great match. Also if David is the definition of a predator then I guess that makes Zach and his posse the same. None of David's actions was about sex, it was about revenge/goldie

David's path of revenge has taken the path of getting sex from Amanda as a method of revenge and/or punishment for Jake. That is disgusting, reprehensible and the actions of a very sick man!! eom/Tex

No sicker than the rest of the goons, they are all predators and all out for the same thing, control and revenge, why and how is David any different? They all will do any thing to get what they want. All I see is another control freak just like the rest, but he is a lot smarter than any of them/j

I cannot fathom that Amanda is not ALSO being held responsible for ANY of this...she's the screwball who was SO SURE David would take the baby away before she even TRIED to have something resolved in the courts...WHY/HOW/ON WHAT BASIS could David have legally taken full custody of her baby? And what..he'd FOR SURE steal the child at some point? She's the one who basically drove Jake..although he was a putz too...to come up with his whacky scheme. She's the one who went along with Opal's find-an-abandoned-baby-at-the-church caper which Tad and Taylor botched. She's the one who AGREED to enter into this contract..and trust me that contract is TOTALLY voidable...it wouldn't stand up in a court of law...but she's the one who's SURE this is the ONLY way...and she's the one WHO CAN'T WAIT ANOTHER FRIGGIN' EXCUSE MY FRENCH MONTH to go for an insemination?? What is she 8?!? She cannot wait another 28 days?!?!? She's like a child who cannot wait for Christmas but HAD she waited another 28 +/- days she didn't NEED to do the deed with David! What the heck is ONE MORE MONTH and if it didn't take...okay..now it's longer...but one month, 2 months, 3 months...90 days...v. having sex with David?!?!? And she's the IDIOT who BELIEVES that David would NEVER TELL JAKE and would KEEP THIS SECRET and not threaten her with it?!?!?? But she did think he'd steal Baby #1 so much that this whole insane scenario was put into motion! So he'd steal Baby #1 from you but he'd keep the secret from your husband that you and he had sex?!? Amanda IS AN IDIOT and bears TOTAL responsibility for what's happened---if David had nobody to play with...nobody to toy with...nobody to manipulate...then he'd have to pack his toys and go home! In other words if Amanda NEVER put this whole mess into motion she wouldn't be where she is today. But then she IS the one who went to David last year and hit the sack with him in the first place...he never raped her...he never forced her..he didn't manipulate her...she was TOTALLY willing! PEOPLE SEEM TO FORGET WHAT A HO AMANDA WAS prior to becoming this supposed madonna-blessed-mother....don't you remember when Jake last year CALLED her a whore? He was drunk but he called her that...like around Christmas time..when he warned JR to stay away from her because she's a whore. Kendall gives out sex like a sympathy card....but Amanda handed out sex like her CALLING card! David is far from the only one to blame...and Amanda is FAR FAR FAR from blameless! SORAS

jeanne....the subject of this topic is David, which is why I didn't compare his actions to the other characters in Pine Valley at this time.//SORAS.....First......Jake did NOT call Amanda a ''whore''. Please don't make me find the exact transcript to prove that to you!! (Especially since that site recently had a terrible virus.) I would not dispute that word if I were not positive, OK? I can't speak for anyone other than myself, but the reason I've not blamed Amanda for any of this, is because to ME, she is the victim, and I would feel as though I were blaming the victim, as so many people do when there is a sexual dispute between a man and a woman. Not fair? Maybe........but that is what I feel. eom/Tex

I think he did and I was shocked...tramp I could see...but I recall being VERY shocked...I'll hunt for the transcript and will post what I find whether I recall correctly or not...if I recall incorrectly then perhaps that was my opinion of her...but really it wasn't...I felt she was trampy with a good heart but very immature and totally manipulative...that's why she and David were kind of a match!...I feel one cannot respond to a topic about David and his being held totally responsible as the purveyor of evil without also looking at Amanda..their story..this story,,,is intertwined. So I am putting out my comment that I am shocked how Amanda is not being held responsible by many on this board while everyone is saying shame on David...I think Amanda bears responsibility. I'll look and see what I can as to the words...if I'm wrong I'm wrong...if that merits my being drummed off the board, so be it! LOL..SORAS

PS Tex..maybe it was slut not whore...?? I'll look..SORAS

Jake asked her if she was dressed as a ''hooker''. I agree that word is interchangable with whore, but my point is that if you're going to make a statement, the word should be what was actually said. (Especially since ''hooker'' is bad enough!!!) I would also like to point out that Jake was drunk when he said that to Amanda (not that that makes what he said ok) and he appologized to her over and over for speaking to her in that way. I've enjoyed our calm discussion of our disagreement!! eom/Tex

It doesn't matter what word he used we all know what he meant. He used Amanda for sex and dumped her as soon as he could get Taylor. Oh but he is so perfect compared to David, after all he is a Martin, therefore totally in the right no matter what he does or to whom./goldie.

Perhaps it doesn't matter to you.......but it matters to me, and I suspect that SORAS would rather use the correct word when complaining about Jake. As I already said, ''hooker'' was bad enough, so why not just quote accurately? Amanda and Jake used each other for sex and fun......they had that very conversation at the beginning of their relationship. I realize it is not something you would not like to acknowledge, but Jake is written as the good guy, and David has always been written as the villain. If I were as big a fan of David as you are, I would just embrace the villain.......enjoy their complete 'badness' and enjoy all the evil things they did to everyone else. That is what I did with Lindsay on OLTL, and the way I have always enjoyed Mitch Laurence, also on OLTL. I sure wouldn't waste a lot of energy trying to defend the indefensible!! eom/Tex

Ok, sure Jake used Amanda for fun sex and she fell in love with him and then he dumped her and called her names and then she used David for feel good sex after that, don't forget Amanda went to David he didn't go looking for her, as a result she got pregnant and didn't want David to have any part of it, which started all the trouble. So now who is the user here? only David?/goldie

Oh, Tex...I didn't realize you said anything more today...I already posted the transcripts. Jake didn't apologize to Amanda that night...that's for sure...lol...SORAS

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