All My Children Discussion Group -- Annie: The world's worst, worst mother

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Topic: Annie: The world's worst, worst mother

Topic Posted by: Perri
Date Posted: Fri Oct 23 22:50:59 2009
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Good for you, Emma! Dig in your little heels and keep refusing to go back to Adam's mansion with your demented, greedy, vindictive, nasty Mommy. Not that being demented, greedy, vindictive or even nasty make Annie an unfit mother. This is a soap after all. If only sane, modest, self-sacrificing, noble women on soaps became mothers, there would be no second generations on soaps.

But, usually, even the very scummiest daytime females at least wait until their offspring are pushing adulthood age before they try to rope them into mom's get rich quick (and pay back Daddy) schemes.

Even the scummiest daytime mothers don't make their little seven-year-old daughters lie about who they saw commit a murder unless it is for a darn good reason - such as protecting their child's life. Encouraging their little one to lie about who they saw commit a murder for the main purpose of enriching Mommy and helping Mommy get revenge on Daddy's ex-girlfriend is good for Mommy. All it does for the little one is to set her up for a lifetime of psychiatric care.

Then, when Daddy's girlfriend is behind bars, even the scummiest daytime mother doesn't tell her little daughters' real daddy that their seven-year-old daughter did the murder so he will back off trying to find the real killer.

Even the scummiest daytime mother doesn't falsely put it out into the universe that her seven-year-old daughter is the killer and then knowingly shack up with the real killer because he is her meal ticket and her stepladder to power and influence.

Even the scummiest daytime mother doesn't expect her traumatized little daughter, who she has accused of being a killer, move back into that scary house with the grim old stepdaddy (imagine how old Adam looks to Emma) where she saw Stepdaddy (who kicked out his own son!) who is the real killer. The killer that little girl watched point a gun at and shoot his own brother.

Sorry, Emma, but your mother Annie has done all that to you. Your mother is the lowest of the low. She is nasty scum, utter nasty scum. She has victimized you and stolen your innocence that you can never have back again, and you are only seven years old. She is the lowest form of life I've seen in a long long time.

Your mother Annie will blame her problems on everybody else and paint herself as the victim. She will claim she was forced to do what she did. But she wasn't forced to do what she did to you. That was her choice, to use you the way she did. Instead of putting you and your welfare first, she put herself before you, her own daughter who she promised to protect. Annie is scum.

Posted by: NiteOwl
Date posted: Thu Oct 29 12:24:33 2009
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I was soooo happy to see your post. You said it all way better then I could. I have watched soaps for years, but have never seen this type of ourtrageous parental behavior toward a small child. What Annie has done to Emma is child abuse (for all the reasons you mentioned), and if the writers try to make excuses for her actions (just to save the character of Annie) then they are promoting child abuse themselves!!

Posted by: MuirG
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 16:55:17 2009
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Your post is a happy one to see as I agree with all the things you said that Annie did to her child. Annie has been manipulating and using her child for MONTHS.

People blame Zach, Ryan, Erica and Liza for going after Annie, but Annie has given them cause to do so and guess what folks Zach, Ryan, Erica and Liza are RIGHT as Annie did not kill Stuart BUT she can clear Kendall, which is the ONLY reason they are going after her. Annie can clear Kendall because she is the main accomplice in the cover-up of Stuart’s murder and that makes her guilty as sin.

Zach, Ryan, Erica and Liza are NOT looking to pin the murder on Annie. Alright Zach tried that once and he was wrong. But the four really THINK Annie killed Stuart and what they are looking for is a confession or the truth. They are NOT looking to pin the murder on Annie, they want the TRUTH to clear Kendall because they know she is innocent. Some folks may not like Kendall but Kendall is THEIR loved one, friend and client. I for one don’t expect them to sit back and do nothing, as I too would try to clear my loved one.

Let us get back to this pinning of the murder on someone. Look closely folks when Emma told that monstrous lie on Kendall and Annie offered up her child as eye-witness to the DA, they both KNEW (NOT think folks, KNEW) it was a lie and THAT lie helped in a BIG way to pin the murder on Kendall. Recall folks that Kendall was prepared to fight for her life. Then Emma said she saw Kendall shoot Stuart and the tot shut down when no one seemed to believe her, but begged her to tell the truth. Emma was so convincing that brainless Kendall flew over the coo coo’s nest and started to see visions of Stuart and then started to confess to something she did not do.

Yes folks Emma’s lie did that to Kendall. Emma’s lie (with the assurance of her mommy) pushed Kendall to confess and so helped pinned the murder on Kendall. Kendall considered the little girl for a while and said she did not want to have to put her through testifying and of course perjuring herself, while her mommy was more than willing to have her little girl testify and perjury herself as she made a sweet deal with the DA, Emma’s testament if all the charges were dropped against her. Annie wants Kendall to spend her life in prison away from her two boys, as Ryan loved Kendall more than he loved her.

I get the Annie love, but be objective as to her shenanigans. Recognize it or not Annie became a changed mother ever since she kidnapped Emma and used her to try to get back Ryan. A woman should never allow a man to turn her into such a fool, can’t blame the man for that. I don’t want her off the canvas, this a soap and she serves a purpose. But the woman is deep in the cover-up of Stuart’s murder, she & Emma are the ONLY two, right now who can clear Kendall. And Zach, Erica, Ryan and Liza are on the right track in going after her, as Adam, Stuart’s killer does not remember what he did AS YET. As for Adam I can’t believe he thinks it is a good idea to keep the secret that Emma killed his brother (lie) going, and has only offered Erica to help keep Kendall on the run, rather than clear her name. Shows what a weakly Adam has become with Annie by his side.

Go Zach, Erica, Ryan and Liza, get the truth and clear your loved one from a life sentence in prison. Please don’t tell me Kendall is not in prison, that’s not the point. Kendall IS a convicted felon for a crime she did not commit and she is being hunted down by US Marshalls who can kill her, all because Annie refuses to tell truth, helped put her where she is (with encouraging Emma to lie) and IS covering up a crime for her own personal reasons. There is no one else on the canvas, besides Annie, who has stood by and allowed an innocent person to go to prison for a life sentence, for something he/she did not know.

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Last word should be ‘do.’

Thank you! People, if you're going to say that Kendall *confessed* to the crime, without adding all the cirucmstances that led to Kendall's confession, then you are not telling the whole story that we all know, which is that Kendall was confused about that night and came to believe she did kill Stuart especially after Emma claimed she was an eye witness to that. Which we all know and Anna and Emma both know that Emma is lying about. Why do you not add that fact which happens to be a very relevant fact?

That's true but she DID confess. It's like half a hole. If she was confused why jump the gun and confess on the word of a 7 year old. Doesn't matter because she didn't spend ONE day in jail and when it was time for her to go back after the injury she went on the lam. She says she'll be back with Zach once her name is cleared. What about the escape? They'll sweep that under the rug but innocent or not escaping is a crime with jail time attached.

So true, so true, MuirG. So what if Kendall DID confess, that does not make her guilty of a crime she did NOT do! In real life innocent people confess all the time, under police pressure. Does that make them guilty, NO! Are they released once their lawyers clear them YES! Kendall did not spend a day in prison but she IS a convicted felon for a crime she did not do, unless her name is cleared. Try very hard to understand this, an eye-witness who is about to testify AGAINST you is the most credible evidence of all, reasonable doubt stands no chance. Only in this case the eye-witness was LYING with the blessing of her nasty mother. Kendall SAVED Emma from perjury, but did her nasty mother care that her child would perjury herself, NO siree! Nasty mommy only cared about her freedom and as others have said PINNING the murder on Kendall. Get this too, even if Kendall confessed, once the truth is out she will be cleared, while Annie did not kill Stuart but she IS GUILTY of accessory to murder after the fact, covering up a crime, and standing by and allowing an innocent person to be convicted all the while knowing the truth.))Zachsfan4

Posted by: jeanne
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 13:28:54 2009
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I wouldn't defend Annie but I certainly wouldn't take Ryan's side, he is no better than Annie, in fact most of the town is no better than Annie, that is the real problem, it is hard to really hate Annie when the rest are just as bad or worse. Annie was a good Mother and took very good care of Emma until she got tangled up with that disgusting Ryan, if he hadn't treated Annie so horribly and mean maybe she wouldn't be so determined to hurt him back, it is sad that Emma is caught between these two, and more sadly this happens to kids in real life all the time.

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This is me...standing to applaud! eom/CaroleA

Exactly. Annie was originally well-balanced and sane, until Ryan came along and turned her life upside down. I would never defend her abuse of Emma...but IMO, Annie is still mentally ill and has a long way to go before she's completely herself again. Not an excuse, but it's at least an explanation of why she's treating Emma like this. In Annie's sick mind Adam is the meal ticket who'll get her custody of Emma, so the end justifies the means. But if Annie were in her right mind she'd realize all the damage that this big dark secret is doing to her child. Understatement

Annie is very much in her right mind. Just like Ryan is.

Posted by: SORAS
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 9:09:15 2009
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I have said this before and ICAM!!

I don't understand the posters who say they are supportive of Annie and why is everyone so mean to her and so suspicious of her.

Okay...so assuming she did not kill Stuart...SO WHAT?!!? Do we give her CREDIT for not having killed him??!! Particularly when she has so burdened Emma with the "secret" of that night!

I never liked Annie until after Ryan lost his memory and further into it, it became quite sad to see how much she lost...then when she ended up in Oak Haven, I came to like her and root for her. Particularly with the addition of Aiden to her life. I liked that hook-up. When she so totally dissed him to take up with wealthy Adam...such an ingrate! Such a user!

After "that night at the mansion" happened...and she reverted to her natural self and become a manipulative, gold-digging, vindictive, nasty woman who wanted nothing more than her freedom, her daughter (to get back at Ryan more so than to have time with Emma it seems), and the money and prestige of being Mrs. Adam...she turned me off pretty much completely. Her dalliances and flirtations with Scott sealed the deal..she's obnoxious.

But MOST OF ALL was the revelation of what she's put Emma through...WHO DOES THAT?! Who makes a child carry a terrible secret...FOR WHATEVER REASON! And then how Annie has been so scummy getting to the child all this time..sneaking her cellphones...and at the hospital locking others out!...ANNIE IS A TERRIBLE MOTHER AND DOESN'T DESERVE TO HAVE ANY UNSUPERVISED VISITS WITH EMMA...let alone ANY type of physical custody of her!

That's how I feel about it. I don't mind having Annie around as a character..but she is the world's worst mother.

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Hmm surprise this posted twice...because my computer said Explorer stopped working and was recovering...sorry...crazy internet access. SORAS

SORAS - I agree with every single word of your post. Thank you for saying it! I simply do not understand all the folks defending Annie. She is the world's worst mother!! eom/NiteOwl

Posted by: SORAS
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 9:07:33 2009
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I have said this before and ICAM!!

I don't understand the posters who say they are supportive of Annie and why is everyone so mean to her and so suspicious of her.

Okay...so assuming she did not kill Stuart...SO WHAT?!!? Do we give her CREDIT for not having killed him??!! Particularly when she has so burdened Emma with the "secret" of that night!

That's how I feel about it. I don't mind having Annie around as a character..but she is the world's worst mother.

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PS: When Jake was talking to Emma in the hospital, asking her about her being caught in the middle of warring adults basically...and he asked her if that upset her and made her afraid, etc...and that child actress nodded yes and then did a tiny little furrowing of her brow and tilted her head forward and had this pleading look come over her eyes ---I was eating lunch watching this epi I had recorded and I dropped my food and said awwwwwww poor little girl!! She so touched me I replayed that scene 2 more times...the look on her face just grabbed my heart completely...this little actress was brilliant in that moment. I still see that look on her face and frannkly it reminds me how very fragile children are...even in this day and age when even the youngest seem to be way wiser than their years...they're not. They're babes in the woods....and the so-called grown-ups need to remain cognizant of their fragility and the great responsibility we have in caring for them. SORAS

That affected me too, poor Emma! I do not understand how Annie can be using her own little seven year old daughter like this. It's inhuman!

Posted by: Angela
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 7:34:51 2009
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This poor kid has been through so much with Annie & Ryan. I think Emma needs to get away from these 2.

Posted by: Borg
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 1:38:46 2009
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So very true. Annie is an abusive psycho to Emma, not a real mother at all. Emma has learned from this psycho that it's OK to lie and put an innocent woman (with children of her own) in prison, so that psycho mommy can marry the real murderer. Ugh. Annie should not be allowed anywhere near Emma again.

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I'm glad to see there are others who feel this way too. I don't really care what the so-called grownups do to each other. They can handle it. But to force an innocent little girl like Emma (her own daughter!) into the role that Annie forced her into is horrible. Annie doesn't deserve to have custody of a cockroach must less a sensitive little girl.

Posted by: goldie
Date posted: Sat Oct 24 0:06:18 2009
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Poor Emma, I guess she will stay with her mean, nasty control freak of a Daddy, who as she stays in her room is downstairs planning a crime with her Daddy's ex-girlfriend's also control freak Mafia husband. Emma is trapped in a bizzarro world of freaks and criminals. And the only one they really care about is Daddy's new girlfriend's Ho of a daughter. Emma is one sad little girl.

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I wonder if you really understand rignt from wrong! Odd that a grown up woman will defend a woman that has committed so many unmotherly acts towards her seven year old child. A woman that put an innocent person in jail, a killer, a liar, a blackmailer, and a gold digger.

I don't understand this.... Goldie isn't defending Annie, she's telling the truth about Ryan. Neither of Emma's parents are worth the price of the bullet it would take to make them leave this world. Emma will be an AMC psycho/killer/maniac someday, if the show lives long enough! eom/Jenny

I don't understand it either. Kendall put herself in jail by confessing. That you cannot pin on Annie. And as for knowing right from wrong--is Ryan right? He only pays attention to Emma if it will further his cause against Annie. eom/CaroleA

And Daddy's new girlfriend is also Emma's brother Spike's Grandmother , How will a 7 year old ever sort this mess out in her mind. And where is little brother Spike? The perfect Father seems to have forgotten all about him, hope someone is feeding him/j

Ryan is a lousy father, there is no doubt about that. He shacked up with Kendall instead of being a good father to Emma. That is one of the reasons why Emma said it was Kendall who she saw shoot Stuart. Emma wanted to send Kendall to prison so her Mommy and Daddy would reunite and be a family with her again. But did Mommy realize how screwed up her little daughter was getting and gently explain to her that she had to tell the truth? No because Emma's lie about Kendall suited Annie very well. It protected the real killer, who Annie was trying to rope in as her sugar daddy. Anyone who uses the excuse that *Kendall confessed* as an excuse for what Annie is doing, either does not realize or simply does not care that the only reason Kendall confessed was because she was confused and Emma's accusation sealed the deal. Who would believe that little Emma would lie about such a thing? She had to be telling the truth right? But we know she wasn't. Emma was lying and Annie knew she was lying and encouraging her to lie for Mommy's sake. What kind of mother asks her to child to send another woman to what may have been her execution, based on a lie? What kind of woman would expect her little daughter to go live with Mommy and the old man who was the real killer? Only the nastiest, scummiest woman alive. This isn't about Ryan. This is about Annie. Annie as a mother makes Ryan look like the father of the year. Annie is a rotten human being all around. Look what she did to Aidan after he worked so hard to help her. She used him and absued him and threw him under the next bus and Ryan wasn't involved in that at all. That is the real Annie. She is a rotten human being and an even worse mother.

Posted by: Lurkersview
Date posted: Fri Oct 23 23:45:20 2009
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I too said ‘good for you Emma’ when the little girl blackmailed mommy dearest today.

Emma has learned emotional blackmail from mommy dearest. Annie to Emma; “If you love me you will not say anything about what you saw…” “Emma you will not see me again if you tell what you saw..” “ If you love me you will do this one more thing for mommy..” All Emma hears is emotional blackmail from mommy dearest or “I will tell you what to tell daddy.” Now she is giving it back to mommy dearest.

Dearest mommy sure is a nasty piece of work. Encouraging Emma to repeat a disgusting & dangerous lie that she saw Kendall shoot Stuart is very low of Annie. Kendall confessed but Emma’s lie, with Annie’s blessing helped to push Kendall over the edge. Annie prattled many times that Kendall is going to get the justice she deserves, when the gold-digger knew that Kendall was innocent. Now Emma should learn the consequences of her lie, all her friends’ mothers should bar her from their houses and parties until she receives therapy as they fear she might tell dangerous lies on them too if she can do that to her brother’s mother. Then dearest mommy might see what she did to her little girl.

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Well Kendall did some really mean, bad things to Annie and Kendall is all excited about blaming the murder on Annie when she has not one thread of evidence or reason that Annie would kill Stuart, but to save her butt she and her gang will do anything to send Annie to prison for a crime she didn't commit. Kendall is a mean bitch and would not hesitate for a second to do the exact same thing to one of her kids and neither would Ryan/j

Annie knows who did commit the murder and she is protecting him. Annie may not be the murderer but Annie is an accessory after the fact to murder. She is also involved in a conspiracy with Emma to protect the real killer. That makes Annie every bit as guilty as Adam is.

They're all behaving badly, aren't they?...lol... The entire adult population of PV has turned sociopathic! I blame it all on that Father Clarence, who was most likely a demon in disguise. Understatement

I was kind of expecting to see Father Clarence pop into that chapel where Kendall and Aidan are hiding too. But no matter how bad the other adults of PV are, nobody holds a candle to Annie and her mental and emotional destruction of her own little girl just so that Annie can have revenge on everyone in PV she hates. Annie is pure evil.

Kendall is excited about blaming Annie??? So what that doesn’t mean a thing, she can’t put Annie in prison w/o evidence OR an eye-witness. We are not talking about speculation here Jeanne we have FACTS. How about the REAL deal in that Annie feels NO GUILT in seeing an innocent Kendall take the fall for Stuart’s murder? Kendall’s family and friends are not off their rockers going after Annie. They would be fools to go after someone less suspicious, for starters Annie & Adam were NEVER friends for her to help him if there was nothing in it for her. As it turns out, Annie KNOWS Adam killed Stuart yet she encouraged her child to lie about seeing Kendall shoot Stuart and it is that lie that pushed Kendall to confess. If Emma had not been given up as an eye-witness to the DA, BY MOMMY DEAREST and was willing to testify that she saw Kendall shoot Stuart, Kendall would have gone to trial as she intended, and there was always reasonable doubt, but an eye-witness would CHANGE that. Emma showing that she is her mother in training, refused to budge with her LIE and shut down totally. Kendall SPARED Emma from perjuring herself, by confessing. OTOH Annie was willing to have her daughter perjury herself to make sure Stuart’s murder was PINNED on Kendall.